Fischer vs. Kasparov

Fischer was the greatest chess player that has ever lived and Kasparov a close second. ( Please let this be the last post!)

Mine would've been the last post if you hadn't butted your ugly head in again...

I think it's telling that these threads are never resurrected after months of inactivity with "Wooo! Go Kaparov. Garry iz the bestest, he had more iq's" comments

Equals but in differnt eras.........

Look at Kasparov's IQ and Fischer's IQ 

Gary Kasparov: IQ Score 190

Bobby Fischer: IQ Score 187

If the roles were reversed with the era and advent of computers they would be virtually equal in strength and weaknesses. They are both my favorite players of the game and style of play were different between the two. Both are brilliant at the board game! Does not matter how young they were when they first started chess, it is what they both have accomplished since!!!!!!!!!!!

Fischer a genius ?

May be he was ,but he was also working very hard to improve his knowledge ,spending all his time on it .

Kasparov a genius ?

He was a talented player ,who used any new technologies to improve his level and proved he was a wonderful player .

What about a match Fischer vs Kasparov ,if Fischer hadn't stop his carreer too soon ?
I think Fischer would have won ,because of his full "focused on chess" mind ,and because he would also had the same opportunities about infos,technologies on chess .

It would have been the match of the millenium ,for sure :)

Oh great, so now we've managed to combine a Fish vs Kasp thread with an IQ thread...

Not a question of IQ ,just the fact that for Fischer ,chess was everything ... and not for Kasparov

I'm sure there have been lots of people who suck for whom chess was everything...

The moral is don't touch Andy's food.

Or make Andy want to stick his head in a Cuisinart.

Oh great, and now my "posted-in-topics" thingie shows me 2 Fish vs Kasp threads (with exactly the same title) BACK TO BACK!!!

They didn't work that hard, they simply read a few books written by far better players then them.  I think Fischer skipped the etiquette part though .

Kasparov did have more technology though, he didn't just have books, he also had movies!

Estragon, dont you think age has something to do with chess strength---If you dont you are dumber than you look. Even Kasparov realized that---he quit in his early 40s.  Fischer was 29 when he  played spassky in 72'---Anand was two years old. You Bozo---do you really think Fischer and Anand could have had a meaningful match?

Kramnik, at the time of the Fischer-Spassky match was floating around in his daddy's left gonad---he wasn't born until 75'. Estragon, pull your head out and talk sensibly. The other guy you mentioned was Ivanchuck---he was 3 years old at the time of the match.

Do you really think Fischer could have played these guys in his old age. Man, if you had half a brain, you would be dangerous!  

Fischer does not come close to Kasparov's achievements. You cannot judge people on what you think they COULD have done. People play their contemporaries who have equal access to books, computers, whatever. Get real, we are judged on what ACTUALLY achieve. All of this should have, could have would have stuff is just invalid. IMO

I believe it is not possible to judge between them accurately as they never played against each other. However in terms of achievment Kasparov is on top but Fischer lived in a time of Soviet Dominated chess. He himself once alleged that they had fixed the candidates whereas Kasparov did not live in the generation of such players no doubt Karpov was a good player so was Short, Kramnik and others but according to me both haev contributed a lot to chess

sutirtha 11---You said about Fischer---" He himself once alleged that they had fixed the candidates."

That the Soviets fixed Chess tournaments is beyond a shadow of a doubt. They did it in all the big tournaments where Western masters took part. In fact, it was the cheating in tournaments like Curacao  that led to the establishment of the candidates matches. Fischer maintained that if you are playing your opponent in a match---its almost impossible to cheat. And when Fischer took away the Soviets ability to cheat---he ran over his opponents in the candidates matches like a steam roller. 

Just as the theory of evolution is no longer just a theory---the alleged collusion of Russian masters is no longer just an allegement. You can take it to the bank-amigo.

Russia is not such a safe place for Kasparov, who is prepared to put his own life and safety at risk to speak his mind. I'd say he outshines Fischer not only in his Chess achievements, but as a strong and brave person.