Flaggers

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That position is close to impossible in most games. Technically it’s a “possibility” but, that is ridiculous. The side with the queen would have to be a complete ignoramus to find themselves in that position. If they’re that dumb, how did they end up that far ahead in material in the first place?

The clear demarcation at possible (versus plausible) avoids arbiters having to use their own analytical abilities to make a ruling.  It is the same reason the existence of any pawn on the unflagged player is considered enough material to get the win.

 

They had time to think and they got up material, then they started running out of time and making random fast moves and got into that position... then they came to the forums crying about getting flagged happened a couple of months ago if I'm not mistaken lol

And dude geez... time is a factor.... if you need more time to get a better position then face the consequences later... or perhaps next time just politely ask your opponent if you can have time odds

Did you read the FIDE rule? Do you understand what it says? After white runs out of time it's the existence of legal sequence of moves leading to a checkmate that makes it a win for black. The checkmate does not have to be reached through normal play. If it's "technically" possible then it's a win for black, if not - it's a draw.

Calling official rules of chess "ridiculous" is an insult to chess and all the players.

In post #37 jetoba has explained that the US Chess rules and the Chess.com rules are somewhat different. These rules are a close approximation to FIDE rule but are more simple to implement. jetoba has put is nicely "Know the rules the game is being played under."

You are a member here since 2012 and still don't understand the rules. This is ridiculous!

Everything you've said is wrong and just dumb. Flagging is part of games with time controls.

By the way I’m not talking about bullet. Flagging is almost the entire strategy for bullet. I am able to deliver checkmate in bullet sometimes, and there have been times when I was mated but for the most part, flagging is the strategy and I get that.

If you’re playing a five minute game with no increment, and you have absolutely crushed your opponent for the entire game but you haven’t been able to deliver checkmate, then they win because they had like two seconds more than you in the end, that is poor sportsmanship. That is what I’m saying. And it happens often. They technically have enough material to potentially mate you but the odds of it are beyond minuscule. You could be up something ridiculous like 15 points but they just try to move their pieces quickly to steal the win from you when the clock gets down to the wire. The respectable thing to do would be to say, “you got me, good game” and resign. That person‘s rating should not be going up after they just played that poorly and won by something as small as two seconds. How is that not understandable?

If you’re able to and/or care to, take a look at the game I just played against tvors5. Five minute, no increment. The game is absolutely lost for them but, they had six seconds on the clock so they win. Their rating goes up and mine goes down. Sure, it’s within the rules but come on now… I’m about to capture the last pawn they have which gives them zero promoting chances, and I’m about to promote myself, which would result in an inevitable checkmate being that the king is stuck on the back rank. Congratulations on having six seconds…that is so whack to me but whatever, it is what it is. I’m not trying to complain about the rules, I’m complaining about the players. It’s up to the player to choose to be decent. Most people don’t choose that unfortunately.

If you complain that much about Bullet and Blitz, then why not switch to Rapid? 

Sometimes, you got to play unfairly, that is by time. When your opponent is ultra low on time, you have 2 options,

1. Make fast moves and also give checks, which would cost the opponent precious time.

or

2. Play peacefully, make calm moves and let your opponent run out of time, but if you are low on time too or losing, then resort to option 1.

You have to play according to the situation, even tho its unfair

I’m not complaining about bullet

Bullet, blitz, rapid, classical - it doesn't matter. Clock is part of the game. It's absolutely ridiculous to complain about people trying to achieve the best possible outcome within the rules. They do nothing wrong regarding decency or sportsmanship. Your complains are poor sportsmanship.

Regarding your game against tvors5 - https://www.chess.com/game/live/33147005415 - even if you've captured his last pawn there is still a legal sequence of moves where black gets checkmated - you lose fair and square. Yes you've outplayed him on the board but you are totally lost on the clock. Chess is a competition in both fields. Why don't you resign when 1 sec is left and the loss is imminent? That would be a decent thing to do.

i only flag people in bullet. Its kinda fun, though.

If im playing a 2000 and hes down on time, would I go for the flag in bullet when im dead lost?? YES!! And thats how i beat a 2000

but in rapid and blitz, if im dead lost, ill resign

I flag people all the time

I hate trying to flag my opponents and being flagged as well, but it's my own fault for not managing my time well.

The issue here is not whether bullet/blitz is "chess" or not but more an issue of anger management.

You want to play quick games but you don't want to lose on time? Make your mind up.

No one cares to because your games are irrelevant. If you don't like flagging, which is just part of the game, then don't play. But don't clog up the forums with dumb posts.

Time is part of most competitive games, and being able to use the clock effectively is important. You failed. Grow up and accept it. Do better next time or close your account.

You're mad at someone continuing to play when they're winning on time and you can't mate them? Boy is life sure gonna be rough for you. Time is part of the game, no matter what level. If your flag falls, you lose. If you don't like it, maybe you should play longer time controls or with an increment.

The rules are the same for both sides, including the allotted time.

if you are winning on the board but very little time left compared to your opponent his argument will be “see, while you were burning through your time like the rabbit, I was hoarding it like the tortoise” or something.

A lot of people keep acting like I’m having an issue with time management. A lot of times the opponent won by just a few seconds. It’s not like they were up by a full minute or something. In terms of the board, they were absolutely crushed. In terms of time, we were neck and neck. A lot of times that’s how it goes. And again, not talking about bullet.

So the attitude of a lot of players on here is, it’s okay for me to play poorly as long as I move my pieces quickly in the end. That is whack. Defeats the whole purpose of chess. Yes time is a factor, obviously. But it’s not the entire point of the game. The point of the game is delivering checkmate, strategizing, finding tactics etc. I hope the people with that attitude realize that they could do this in any game with a time factor. You don’t need to be good at it, just move your pieces quickly and you can win. So intellectually stimulating! Have fun with that.