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dylanpthomas wrote:
It was a five minute no increment game that went down to the wire which means it was 10 minutes in total. Six seconds is 1% of the entire time available. Again, look at the end position, it’s hopeless. The person was trying to flag me when they were completely lost

They actually werent lost . Look at #97  . They were completely winning both in terms of having the objective upper hand in the game , as well as being up on the clock by more than 20 seconds . 

They took the decision to quickly play suboptimal moves which may worsen their position , which indeed did happen but the clock would compensate for it . 

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dylanpthomas wrote:
There’s also plenty of people that hate flagging. It’s one of the hottest topics on the forums actually

Yes you will probably find 100 posts in the forums who think like you. Compare it to millions who don’t complain. Watch some titled players streams, flagging happens all the time, no complains.

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CooloutAC wrote:

Not accepting what is part of the game is not being a good sport.

+1

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#111

It’s not possible to compare it to the “numbers” of people that say nothing haha. Tons of people in the forum complain about flagging constantly, that’s what I’m saying
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This thread should probably end as I’m not gonna change anyone’s mind and no one is changing mine either. If I blunder pieces left and right, I resign. I always appreciate it when people do that too. I see that as being decent and a good sport. Lots of you wanna move your pieces quickly and say “I’m completely within the rules” which is fine but I have my opinions about but doesn’t matter. End of story. Keep playing poor chess and moving quickly if that fulfills you, be my guest. The last thing I’ll say about it is, imagine doing that to someone in person. It is laughable if you ask me but, do your thing haha
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dylanpthomas wrote:
#111

It’s not possible to compare it to the “numbers” of people that say nothing haha. Tons of people in the forum complain about flagging constantly, that’s what I’m saying

Of course you can compare - this site has several millions of users.

Your complains are together with other weird complains about:

  • refusing rematch
  • asking for rematch
  • refusing draw offer
  • giving perpetual check
  • capturing en passant

Having all these weird stuff in the forums doesn’t mean those are real problems of our game.

 

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dylanpthomas wrote:
This thread should probably end as I’m not gonna change anyone’s mind and no one is changing mine either. If I blunder pieces left and right, I resign. I always appreciate it when people do that too. I see that as being decent and a good sport. Lots of you wanna move your pieces quickly and say “I’m completely within the rules” which is fine but I have my opinions about but doesn’t matter. End of story. Keep playing poor chess and moving quickly if that fulfills you, be my guest. The last thing I’ll say about it is, imagine doing that to someone in person. It is laughable if you ask me but, do your thing haha

You didnt respond to #108 . 

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That's why I don't play those short timed chess formats. In the end the chess match can easily become secondary. The answer is play 30 mins to daily games. Not very complex. The only issue is you'll come up against people who literally take 3 days to choose between one of two squares to move out of check, hoping you'll die of old age and time out, or something.  

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Just you're playing slow time is a rule of chess cant blame anyone for that just learn to play fast easy

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#108

I’m using an iPhone. It doesn’t seem like I can pull up that game any longer as I’ve played a bunch of games since. If you look at the end position, which I’ve said 1 million times, there is zero chance for the opponent to win that game. If you disagree with me, let’s play it out. Someone posted a picture of me making a blunder in the game. But what happened after that blunder? How many moves took place after that scenario? These are pretty important questions. They didn’t see it and there was plenty of time to resign. They made a deliberate decision to flag me even though they were lost.
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dylanpthomas wrote:
#108

I’m using an iPhone. It doesn’t seem like I can pull up that game any longer as I’ve played a bunch of games since. If you look at the end position, which I’ve said 1 million times, there is zero chance for the opponent to win that game. If you disagree with me, let’s play it out. Someone posted a picture of me making a blunder in the game. But what happened after that blunder? How many moves took place after that scenario? These are pretty important questions. They didn’t see it and there was plenty of time to resign. They made a deliberate decision to flag me even though they were lost.

All these details about your game are irrelevant. You opponent has won fare and square.

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dylanpthomas wrote:
#108

I’m using an iPhone. It doesn’t seem like I can pull up that game any longer as I’ve played a bunch of games since. If you look at the end position, which I’ve said 1 million times, there is zero chance for the opponent to win that game. If you disagree with me, let’s play it out. Someone posted a picture of me making a blunder in the game. But what happened after that blunder? How many moves took place after that scenario? These are pretty important questions. They didn’t see it and there was plenty of time to resign. They made a deliberate decision to flag me even though they were lost.

I already addressed this point earlier .

When a player is ahead of their opponent both in terms of material as well as time , they got two strategies . Either to play slowly and continue to solidify and convert the advantage into a win , or to play sub optimal/ bad moves quickly because even if it ends up worsening the position the other guy will have no time to punish them for that .

Your opponent just decided to go with the second strategy . 

Also if I am not wrong , you mentioned somewhere that it was a 5+5 game ? Man if you get flagged in a time control with increment , I advise you to give up chess 

 

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#122

No, it was a five minute game with no increment
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They won by six seconds. Again, take a look at the end position
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dylanpthomas wrote:
They won by six seconds. Again, take a look at the end position

What difference does it make if it’s 6 seconds or 0.1 second or 200 seconds?

Is there a legal sequence of moves where you are checkmated?

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dylanpthomas wrote:
They won by six seconds. Again, take a look at the end position

That's been addressed already . Either you are unable to comprehend the arguments or you just don't want to admit you are wrong.

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I’ve posted enough comments about my perspective. That’s why I recently commented, let’s just end this thread.

#125

If someone wins by .1 seconds in a lost position, you think they deserve the win? That’s fine if you think that, I disagree. I understand the rules clearly, I have expressed until I’m blue in the face that it’s within the opponents power to resign. If the position is lost, I feel they should be resigning. That’s just my opinion. I’m not changing anyone’s mind and mine is not being changed either, end of discussion.
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People already understood what you are trying to say. But go back to the game. You didnt play any good chess , it was your opponent playing quickly and poorly since he had 20 seconds more than you had. 

If someone wins by 0.1 seconds in a lost position do they deserve to win ? Yes they do , since both of you signed up for the rules 

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#122

At no point was my opponent ahead in material and time both. Towards the end of the game, they were ahead by about 20 seconds. Shortly after that, the game was lost for them. Like I said, if anyone disagrees with me let’s play that position out. It is not a win for them whatsoever. Playing that position out is ridiculous