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Senator-Blutarsky

"Excuse me sir! What seems to be your boggle ?"

Kasporov_Jr
marcosite wrote:

I really wasn't going to add to this dire thread anymore but I'm feeling provoked.  How you imagine it's OK to post the above in the context above deserves a slap Kasporov. You appear to do anything but respect female chess players.  I'm starting to think guys like yourself (& you know who you are Ronald), can't get by without some sexist smutty innuendo which you like to believe hides the fact you are inadequate men.  

how is anything posted above wrong? I do respect female chess players, just not the one's who have to showboat for attention everywhere. The one's who constantly upload photos of themselves, create threads saying how they are girls, and post provacative avatars. They know exaxctly what they are doing, and anything done to them its' their fault. And now you are saying we are inadequate men for saying sexual innuendo remarks? Lol figures why your a 40 year old woman

NakedChick

Having just gotten clobbered for having a provocative avatar, I still want to know why Kasporov has not done anything to me. It seems to suggest that he has some self control and is wrong about saying males have none. Oh yes, and I am decidedly under 40. Not that age is remotely relevant.

madhacker

By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

dmxn2k
madhacker wrote:

By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

Flirting with a woman on a social network is not the same as killing animals in a zoo....

The moral, criminal, ethical, issues alone make the analogy a poor one.

Second, a natural urge to kill animals for food (an urge which is debatable regarding humans because humans are arguably built for vegetables, socialized in an environment not to kill animals, and tend not to look at an animal while hungry and think "Oh, food!") would not justify killing more than one needs to eat and killing that which belongs to someone else....

On the other hand, a natural urge to flirt with another (one that is debatable, but highly more reasonable given the perponderance of past interactions between human beings over these thousands of years where the only thing debatable is the definition of flirting) would justify flirting, which isn't excessive and harms no one....

marcosite
NakedChick wrote:

Having just gotten clobbered for having a provocative avatar, I still want to know why Kasporov has not done anything to me. It seems to suggest that he has some self control and is wrong about saying males have none. Oh yes, and I am decidedly under 40. Not that age is remotely relevant.

Agree with you NakedChick & followed The Other Thread to it's rather bitter end.  I don't think you'll ever know how certain members work. Take it as a compliment, maybe you scared him off!  

madhacker

@dmxn2k, it's hardly 'innocent flirting' that the OP is trying to justify here, it's more like persistent harassing. I accept that the analogy is flawed but I was just trying to make a point.

Senator-Blutarsky

It's not so much a flawed analogy as one that may require a reader to ponder over it for half a second, which is quite a stretch on a chess site.

Elubas
madhacker wrote:

By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

Indeed, it depends on how determinist you want to get about this :) "Don't punish me, I can't control who I am!"

And actually I'm not sure if it's easy to resolve this issue -- how far can you go to rid yourself of responsibility. After all, if you're mentally insane for instance you are treated more leniently. My intuition tells me that somehow, at some extreme, the argument has to break down (yet it's not easy to see the "how").

dmxn2k
madhacker wrote:

@dmxn2k, it's hardly 'innocent flirting' that the OP is trying to justify here, it's more like persistent harassing. I accept that the analogy is flawed but I was just trying to make a point.

He repeatedly condemns harassment while noting WHY it would occur, not THAT it should occur. At worst, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box, but he's not justifying harassment....

He is trying to make a point that everyone ignores because he can't state his position clearly, and you were making a point using an analogy that is only slightly better than his articulation....

madhacker

Hmm... I think you are being generous to him, when he says things like "please respect the fact that you will always be targeted as a female". I'd modify your statement to "At best, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box".

Senator-Blutarsky

Boys will be boys, teenage hormones rage all over the website currently.

dmxn2k
madhacker wrote:

Hmm... I think you are being generous to him, when he says things like "please respect the fact that you will always be targeted as a female". I'd modify your statement to "At best, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box".

If you take that statement out of the context of the rest of his rambling, sure.

RonaldJosephCote

                     The OP is back. What a coincidence. He left just before S.S. came here, and he re-appears just after she left.

marcosite

...well spotted....worth a thought...

RonaldJosephCote

                   He posted in her, "tough to be a girl thread"  post 1233

JGambit

Kasprov jr gets it. Welcome to reality.

I also love how the girls pretend they hate it as if that wasn't their intention.

JGambit
Elubas wrote:
madhacker wrote:

By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

Indeed, it depends on how determinist you want to get about this :) "Don't punish me, I can't control who I am!"

And actually I'm not sure if it's easy to resolve this issue -- how far can you go to rid yourself of responsibility. After all, if you're mentally insane for instance you are treated more leniently. My intuition tells me that somehow, at some extreme, the argument has to break down (yet it's not easy to see the "how").

I have a thought on this idea.

I don't care how insane you are, or how unwitingly you do it. If someone was to go on a killing spree for example, I do not care if they are aware of what they are doing, they should be capped.

If you are a theif, I don't care if you can control it or not, you should be punished.

If someone fights you, you don't say "well thats your instinct so its okay"

Can't stand the mamby pamby well little johnny has this so its okay no matter what he does.

Actions speak for themselves, and controlable or not, all actions have consequences

lovellisaiah

ahahahahahahahah so stupid

Jion_Wansu
Kasporov_Jr wrote:
Jion_Wansu wrote:

What about ladies like Ashley Tapp? Will she be the "next" Magnus Carlsen...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

holy crap fine as hell, need to match her asap

lol