Forced en passant?

lol

the joke just made the whole chess world go crazy

i usually say it as a joke: en passant is forced because it is cool

I dont get the confusion here???

I just looked up the official FIDE rules for traditional chess and it clearly states that en passent is a forced move and must be played when offered.

@Markomenalan En Passant is NOT forced. Please see this comment: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/forced-en-passant#comment-73909111

What happened to everyone seriously debating this position is that they confused it with another position (see diagram below). One could uphold the viewpoint that black can play e.p. and since it is the only move he can play, he has the duty to play it as we can see in the preceding discussion. The difference is of course incomplete information. You knew the double step pawn move was played in the first diagram and you don't know it in this one. You cannot decide the issue in the last diagram without history information. Which is the main reason why chess.com's puzzles always show you the last move. But no-one says you have to in your own puzzles. The alternative is to register the e.p. square when defining your puzzle but no-one sees that you did. Which means that solving the puzzle requires trying the en passant moves. In composition chess there is a standard convention which says that you are not allowed to play e.p. unless provable - but it is possible to adopt the opposite convention if you insist.

So it is not all that simple but I believe that the second scenario is on the mind of most of the commenters on the first one. And they are fundamentally different!

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In this example, en passant is only forced because there is no other legal move. There is a difference between this and a position where just because en passant is legal does not mean it is forced.

where in the handbook does it state that, I just checked and couldn't find it anywhere

That said - it could be that you are following the joke of en passant being forced. but it is not as far as ive just read for this years FIDE handbook

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Unforced en passant

Forced en passant

You have to play en passant whenever you can just to show your opponent that you know the rule.

i once got a zugzwang leading to double en passant leading to mate in 3

En passant is always forced

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No, en passant is not a forced move unless it is the only legal move available to the player. If a player has other legal moves, they are not obligated to perform an en passant capture and can choose to play a different move instead.

Stop lying. The confusion is caused by lying sociopathic trash trying to confuse people.

Well duh ... just like any other move. So how was this not stupid?

It wasn't a legitimate question, as it basically was "If someone has only one legal move, are they forced to make it?" -- capture en passant is a red herring. Of course capture en passant isn't a choice if it's the only legal move and therefore is compelled. Harry Staunton said so because it was obvious ... he didn't say the capture en passant was required--that's a pathetic lie. He said that it was required if it was the only legal move ... duh. People in the 19th century claiming that one was not obliged to capture en passant even if it was the only legal move, therefore resulting in stalemate, were stupid. It happens, just like how people "debate" whether cigarettes cause cancer or evolution or global warming occur or there was a big bang.

"It has always occured to me that en passant is a choice, and as such, cannot be compelled."

Every move is a choice, and as such cannot be compelled, unless it's the only legal move. Duh.

Trolling or mindbogglingly stupid ... your choice.

give a source for your information...link

They never looked it up ... they can't even spell it.

This topic should have been closed 11 years ago, after the original question was answered. Since then this is only a troll magnet.