game reviews how good are they really? to below avg player ?

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LOSTATCHESS

since iam really bad player and upon advice from many better and even good players here in the forums, i have tried the game reviews but they are limited to just one a day for me for some reason but when i do,  do them all they do is tell me what i did wrong  in a move eg. you hung a piece here you left open your bishop there etc etc --  they never tell what i should have done what was the move supposed to be  the correct decision--- maybe i doing something wrong in using the review process but i just don't see what showing me, what i  after the move i did wrong rather than show me what i should have done to correct the mistake before hand ???   is there a adjustment for that iam missing --- cause showing just ones mistakes  after they have been committed, time after time just does no good to me --- any helpful answers out there ?

KeSetoKaiba

Game review is extremely helpful and I would even go as far as to say that game review might be the main reason I was able to improve as much as I have over the years.

Seeing your suboptimal moves can help you identify why they are bad moves and find alternatives which would be better for next time. You repeat this process after every game you play and now you have instant feedback to teach you how to improve. If you don't analyze your games with game review (or some form of analysis), then there's nothing preventing you from repeating the same errors game after game.

medelpad
Game review is alright but not necessary at all, it removes all the work from you and hands the answers to you on a silver plate(or however that saying goes)

A better way of analysis and the way a lot of experienced players tend to recommend is that you first look through the game without an engine to try and locate the mistakes yourself, and only after that checking with an engine(not necessarily “game review”) to see if your observations were correct and what you missed during your personal analysis.

I myself made it to 2250+ properly analyzing probably less than 10% of my games played, but if I were to analyze more often I would definitely make sure to do it the way I explained for better results
ClickandMove

I recommend combining game review with self analysis. Try using Game Review to spot where you had made mistakes but do not look at it's comment. Try to practice against a computer instead to find why it is bad. After that, go back before making that move and find alternative by using the same method.

LOSTATCHESS

thanks to all for the input - i will try to put into practice some of the comments -- but my main question is still unanswered or maybe i am missing it in your comments to understand it -- i looking for a way to have the computor, after i make blunder/mistake tell me what i should have done with that move so as to noy make the same blunder mistake again- the last comment does make a little sense in not looking at what was said -- but i feel still very confused

magipi
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

Game review is extremely helpful and I would even go as far as to say that game review might be the main reason I was able to improve as much as I have over the years.

Seeing your suboptimal moves can help you identify why they are bad moves and find alternatives which would be better for next time. You repeat this process after every game you play and now you have instant feedback to teach you how to improve. If you don't analyze your games with game review (or some form of analysis), then there's nothing preventing you from repeating the same errors game after game.

Are you sure that you're talking about Game Review here? I am baffled. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but whenever I bump into, it's totally useless. It's impossible to find out why a certain move is bad. The "explanation" that Game Review provides is complete nonsense more often than not. The only way to get something out of it is to avoid Game Review entirely and use Analysis instead.

LOSTATCHESS

ok then i didn't know there was a difference i will try game analysis

LOSTATCHESS

i can only do game reviews-- which i agree to do more of just to see if it helps anymore than it used to do - the analysis is for premuim players i guess with a free analysis every once in while for us low lifers here at the bottom so thats out of the question for now --

LOSTATCHESS

tried a few more reviews they are kind of fun watching yourself make incrediable bad moves and then lose material left and right ----yeps such self tourcher i will press on

MrCheckmate2025

Here is shown how good or bad is game review!

KeSetoKaiba
magipi wrote:

...Are you sure that you're talking about Game Review here? I am baffled. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but whenever I bump into, it's totally useless...The "explanation" that Game Review provides is complete nonsense more often than not...

The "game review" I'm referring to is the combination of analysis and the chess.com game report of "Best move, Innaccuracy, Blunder" etc. This is extremely beneficial to learning and this is exactly what I stand behind.

@magipi I agree with you on the "move explanations" by the chess.com "coach" though. Those are pretty useless currently. It was a cool idea by chess.com, but computers aren't yet at the level to "explain" the position in human terms.

@MrCheckmate2025 you may find insightful my video on chess.com "accuracy" (CAPS) within the game review itself.

Verwarr

For myself, the game review often does not really help me because usually I know what was wrong with my game regardless of whether winning or losing. I'm not saying the game review is useless, but my mistakes usually were obvious enough for me to see.

Verwarr

Or maybe I'm just not good at using the game review 🤷‍♂️

ATM015

Game review is insanely good

ATM015

You see what kind of blunders you make, so i learn to prevent exactly those blunders. Same for misses

LOSTATCHESS

but seeing ones mistakes even clearly does not make one know what the best move was before you made the mistake -- thats what iam looking for using a engine analysis after the fact i guess i just heard on u tube about a software dvd thing that will explain each move you do options before you play that move then when you make a move tells you which move was correct or better for that said move and the next -- need to further investigate this see if this what iam looking for

ATM015

Even if it isnt the best move its atleast not a blunder, maybe an inaccuracy or a good move but not a blunder

mikewier

Game Review shows mistakes. This is helpful if you blunder in an opening or in a tactical sequence. It is also helpful for advanced players who may be unsure of the most effective way to proceed in a position.

However, I don’t think it is very helpful for beginners, who make so many mistakes that they will not find general principles to learn from in the review.

What will be more helpful to beginners is self analysis, or analysis with a stronger player.

Ask yourself these questions.

What was my plan? What other plans were available? What features in the position supported each plan? Why is one plan better than another?

These are the things that a beginner needs to learn to advance. The computer game review does not provide this.

LOSTATCHESS

thanks for the input - i see what you are saying -- again thanks

LOSTATCHESS

thanks for your input more to think about