Games like Chess should not have male and female division

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PhillipTheTank wrote:

Oh, look at what is near the top of all of reddit today:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/8t0wpb/are_you_gonna_play_the_victim_all_life_long_my/

 

A female board gamer gives her perspective on what it's like being a female in the board gaming world.  Look no further than this when wondering why women don't play chess or even other board games very much.

 

Here's a quote from the end of her post:

 

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I'm tired of being polite and non-accusatory. There is a problem with how women are treated in this hobby. It's not the Magic players. It's not a few random men. It's pervasive and it's frustrating and, since it doesn't impact the majority, it's not taken seriously. At the same time, men wonder why so few women are in the hobby. Often, I see a lack of interest in difficult games blamed. That's wrong. The reason women don't join the hobby is not the games, it's the men.

If you think that the problem isn't a big deal because lots of people are nice, you're wrong.

If you think that the problem is only at cons, you're wrong.

If you think the problem is only obvious creeps, you're wrong.

If you think that the problem is only blatant sexual assault, you're wrong.

If you think that there is no problem, you're very wrong."

 

You people that are ridiculing me for pointing it out and saying I must be a terrible teacher and shouldn't be around children for pointing this out are part of the problem.  And yes, I fight it with these kids constantly.  It's hard to do without patronizing the girls, but I do the best I can.  It doesn't stop it, but it's better than it used to be.

 

And as you can see, it is absolutely not just the kids.

People keep telling me that because I have zero proof, I'm definitely wrong. Very few of these events took longer than five seconds. I don't wear a body cam to record all footage of how every single person at a tabletop event behaves. 

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 It's not a few random men. It's pervasive

 

 

Ok, and I agree.

But still, if it's pervasive then someone, anyone, should put on a body cam and let us see. I think that would be great.

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LiaraTSoni wrote:

 

If men have been better than women at the top of the chess world for decades, would abolishing gender-specific tournaments or rankings have a positive effect on women's performance or does this not show a mistake in the promotion of women in this marginal sport dominated by men?

I claim that the main problem in chess is that the sport has too little media and spectator interest in any case compared to new sports such as e-sport and this discussion does not help women any further. If there is a recognized deficit in the absolute participation of women in chess, the promotion of chess should begin among girls and boys in schools.

 

 

Well that's another reason. Chess is not a sport. Chess is not popular with the media or the public because it's a game, not a sport. Spectators dont care about chess because competitive chess is boring. Casual chess is fun, tournaments are not fun.

Chess is dominated by men, so if it's going to be fixed, it will be fixed by those that broke it. Which isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Getting rid of female divisions in chess is just a way to make sure it never gets fixed.

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NutzillaMoves wrote:

red girl Zionist should not be challenged. She is like some Anne Frank piece of shit.

 

She occupies Palestine, and that's all we should know from her.

Calling a teenage girl Ann Frank who was murdered  'a piece of shit' ... classy.

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Heather_Stephens escribió:
NutzillaMoves wrote:

red girl Zionist should not be challenged. She is like some Anne Frank piece of shit.

 

She occupies Palestine, and that's all we should know from her.

Calling a teenage girl Ann Frank who was murdered  'a piece of shit' ... classy.

As if Justin Bieber's comment wasn't enough.

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I feel bad for you @RedGrilZ, apparently you have a mentally ill stalker.

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so now this is an antisemitism thread???? ??  

 

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I am reporting this thread because posts written by some members do not follow the guidelines. 

Hatred against the Jewish people isn't desirable. 

 

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reported  out of topic this forum is to talk about chess....other topics should be written in off-topic. 

 

Hating jews isn't allowed or desirable. 

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stop pushing your political views in the public chess forum, reported again

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Vertwitch wrote:

stop pushing your political views in the public chess forum, reported again

His account is only minutes old, he'll just make a new one.

Report him, but I wouldn't give him any attention.

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REPORTING DOES WORK.  

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Vertwitch wrote:

REPORTING DOES WORK.  

Specifically -- explain specifically why you think it works in light of what you've been told about this particular troll.

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reported 

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FactsJustFacts wrote:

 I don't hate Jews. Stop derailing the thread. This is about Zionist invasion of Palestinian land.

"Stop derailing the thread. This is about Zionist invasion of Palestinian land."

Have you actually like read the title of this thread??????

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zzzzzzzzzzz.....
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I'm worried you think that talking about female equality is derailing this thread ... about female equality. Please explain how, hun.

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Time to lock this thread?

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what a freakin train wreck

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:
recoverypob wrote:
Well if a question keeps being repeated, possibly that indicates an appropriate response hasn’t been presented or heeded yet. And where on the site did it stipulate all posts need to be entirely original? That said the proposition as it appears by the author here seems flawed. Chess the game doesn’t have any division of gender. Governing bodies and tournament organisers may - though there appears to have been some signs of progress at least.

If he were a new account, that's ok, but he's been around a long time. Unfortunately the OP seems to be trolling as he makes the common mistake of suggesting there is a separation of the sexes in chess.

 

This, of course, is not true. Women can compete for all the titles men can, and there are no tournaments that bar women from playing.

 

No separation? So what is Fides Women world championship game, huh? Can everyone take part in that? No. So there is separation of sexes Not in way that women cant compete where they want but the other way around.

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