Games with no moves rated?

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

I know that games have to be a few moves long to be rated.

What if the game started on move 5? For example, the game https://www.chess.com/daily/game/262034696 is from a tournament where all games start on move 5.

If my opponent makes no moves, and runs out of time, will the game be rated?

Thanks.

I really don’t kniw

Considering he didn’t move, I think it’s unrated then

In a tournament I believe they are rated, but is been a while since I played any.

As it is the starting position I believe it would be a loss but no raing change 

i agree

What if it isn't a tournament?

If it is not a tournament, the game has to be at least 4 moves long, both players with 4 moves, to be rated.

On a thematic game, it may depend on the move counter if the FEN was entered or not with the appropriate number of moves. I would have to test to verify or find an example game where that happened.

Some severs won't count games with less than 2 or 3 moves. The games get rated initually, but then culled after some time passes, and re-calculates the player ratings as if the games were never played.

Not sure of the specifics on chess.com though.

Interesting. I wasn't aware there were a minimum number of moves required. Always learning something new.

I can't speak for Chess.com. I have no idea what their policy is, I never looked into that.

It is 4 moves by each side in normal games. I want to say tournament games, if the tourney is rated, are rated no matter what, but I'm not positive on that.

Or resign on move 1, or abort the game. But I am certain that this would violate chess.com's Fair Play policy.

I think checkmates are always rated. The 4 move ruling is mostly about losses/wins on time.

https://www.chess.com/daily/game/262034698 I guess this settles it.