BREAKING NEWS: Garry Kasparov comes out of retirement for Saint Louis GCT event!

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Hey ! .. Facts aside ; Are you trying to contradict me ?!  [ ;

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TwoMove wrote:

Didn't he do the same last year, and performed ok?

No. Last year was a special, unrated event. He was even allowed to take back a move at one point!

 

Even with all that, he finished third in a four-way race. He played some good chess, but lost when it mattered.

 

This time, they're playing with live ammo, FIDE rules and with real ratings on the line.

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SmyslovFan wrote:
TwoMove wrote:

Didn't he do the same last year, and performed ok?

No. Last year was a special, unrated event. He was even allowed to take back a move at one point!

 

Even with all that, he finished third in a four-way race. He played some good chess, but lost when it mattered.

 

This time, they're playing with live ammo, FIDE rules and with real ratings on the line.

Well, it was up to Naka to claim a victory (or whatever, additional minutes maybe). He didn't and the game went on. Still, was close to So and Naka at the end and miles ahead of Caruana, IIRC.

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Kasparov on Facebook:




 

Well, the cat is out of the bag! I'l be playing in the first Saint Louis rapid and blitz tournament that begins on August 14, by far the most serious chess competition I have engaged in since my retirement in 2005. I have played a few exhibitions, some "nostalgia matches" against old rivals, and a strong Saint Louis blitz event last year, although the atmosphere was quite casual. This event is another matter, a real tournament against top competition and rapid games, not just blitz. As such, I'm taking my preparation seriously, out of respect for the organizers and for the game itself. Plus, I want to play good chess!

Although I have no plans to play elsewhere, I did not take this decision lightly. I am quite happy with my full life these days. My family, political activism, speaking and writing, coaching—there is no time for the total dedication serious chess requires and deserves. But for me, playing in Saint Louis is special, not least as a way to express my appreciation for what the Sinquefield family has done to promote the game there and worldwide, especially in education. Thanks to Rex Sinquefield, Saint Louis has become the global chess capital and the atmosphere there is approximates the enthusiasm and respect for chess culture back in the Soviet Union—and you can see that the results are excellent as well. In significant part due to the Saint Louis club's collaboration with the Kasparov Chess Foundation in the "Young Stars–Team USA" program, the United States has become a chess juggernaut at the professional and youth level.

I'm very comfortable playing there, and while I'm keeping my expectations in line with my "senior amateur" status, I hope to play well enough to honor such a wonderful host and event with my chess, not just with my name.

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Rock the Chess World Garry!!!  Rooting for you big time!!  Senior amateur versus the Young Guns!  Old Clint Eastwood versus the Rest.   Sean Connery versus Pierce Brosnan.  

Garry = Clint = Sean.  Boom!

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MSC157 wrote:

Predictions here guys! Everyone is welcomed! 

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20+ participating already :)

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SmyslovFan wrote:
TwoMove wrote:

Didn't he do the same last year, and performed ok?

No. Last year was a special, unrated event. He was even allowed to take back a move at one point!

 

Even with all that, he finished third in a four-way race. He played some good chess, but lost when it mattered.

 

This time, they're playing with live ammo, FIDE rules and with real ratings on the line.

That move take-back was legal.  He didn't hit his clock yet.  He also moved the same piece to a different square.  That is within the rules of blitz chess.   

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JeffGreen333 wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
TwoMove wrote:

Didn't he do the same last year, and performed ok?

No. Last year was a special, unrated event. He was even allowed to take back a move at one point!

 

Even with all that, he finished third in a four-way race. He played some good chess, but lost when it mattered.

 

This time, they're playing with live ammo, FIDE rules and with real ratings on the line.

That move take-back was legal.  He didn't hit his clock yet.  He also moved the same piece to a different square.  That is within the rules of blitz chess.   

Yes, but did you see the expression on Naka's face? 

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Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result.

 

The fact that Kasparov wasn't satisfied and is willing to try his hand at a real tournament is fantastic news!

 

Be like Kaspy. Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event. And be optimistic that this event will see some great chess!

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"Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result"

"Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event"

It was a great result. He had been retired for more than a decade and scored a plus against Nakamura over six games, and a plus overall in a field with Nakamura, So and Caruana. 

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Kasparov's book "Deep Thinking" just came out and he probably hopes to sell a few extra copies at a table outside the blitz match.

I just read it and I found it very interesting. He spends most of the book going over the match with Deep Blue.  Strangely there is a lot of specific talk about the positions and moves but no diagrams or score. You need to read it with a copy of the games to really follow the analysis.

 

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sea_of_trees wrote:
JeffGreen333 wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
TwoMove wrote:

Didn't he do the same last year, and performed ok?

No. Last year was a special, unrated event. He was even allowed to take back a move at one point!

 

Even with all that, he finished third in a four-way race. He played some good chess, but lost when it mattered.

 

This time, they're playing with live ammo, FIDE rules and with real ratings on the line.

That move take-back was legal.  He didn't hit his clock yet.  He also moved the same piece to a different square.  That is within the rules of blitz chess.   

Yes, but did you see the expression on Naka's face? 

Yeah, because Nakamura didn't know the rule.  Maurice Ashley didn't either, during his commentary of the game.   Apparently, this rarely comes up in GM chess tournaments.   It comes up often in chess clubs though, which is why I know it.   lol

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Jeff, they'll be using FIDE rules, not USCF blitz rules.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result.

 The fact that Kasparov wasn't satisfied and is willing to try his hand at a real tournament is fantastic news!

 Be like Kaspy. Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event. And be optimistic that this event will see some great chess!

If he would focus more on his chess preparation and forget about politics, writing books, his website, lessons, etc, he would be very competitive in these events.  

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Jeff, they'll be using FIDE rules, not USCF blitz rules.

I didn't know there was a difference.  Can someone please list all of the differences between USCF and FIDE tournament rules?   I have to plead ignorance on this topic.  I've never played in a FIDE event.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result.

 

The fact that Kasparov wasn't satisfied and is willing to try his hand at a real tournament is fantastic news!

 

Be like Kaspy. Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event. And be optimistic that this event will see some great chess!

 

It's all in the eye of the beholder.  A bad event for Kasparov would still be a spectacular event for any one of us.

 

It's all relative!

 

I'll give you a comparison.  Back on Tuesday, you had the annual Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest in Coney Island, New York.  It's a contest where people compete to see how many hot dogs plus buns they can eat in 10 minutes without throwing any of it back up at least until the clock hits 0.

 

If I saw you eat 48 hot dogs including bun in 10 minutes, I'd be amazed.  If you eat 48 hot dogs including bun in 10 minutes, Joey Chestnut would think you were a joke given the 72 that he ate a couple of days ago in 10 minutes!

 

So again, it's all relative!

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result.

 

The fact that Kasparov wasn't satisfied and is willing to try his hand at a real tournament is fantastic news!

 

Be like Kaspy. Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event. And be optimistic that this event will see some great chess!

Any result where he didn't get wiped off the board repeatedly against current top 10 players is a great result.  You're giving Kasparov too much credit as former WC, ironically.  He's been retired more than 10 years.  Nigel Short probably couldn't win a single game in this field, for example.

As for Kasparov, well of course he was disappointed in himself.  He probably thinks he could beat Carlsen in a match even today if he really put his mind to it.  He's always been an egomaniac.

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btickler wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:

Kasparov himself wasn't satisfied with his result last year and yet people here still defend it as if it was a great result.

 

The fact that Kasparov wasn't satisfied and is willing to try his hand at a real tournament is fantastic news!

 

Be like Kaspy. Stop sugar-coating 3rd place in a 4 player event. And be optimistic that this event will see some great chess!

Any result where he didn't get wiped off the board repeatedly against current top 10 players is a great result.  You're giving Kasparov too much credit as former WC, ironically.  He's been retired more than 10 years.  Nigel Short probably couldn't win a single game in this field, for example.

As for Kasparov, well of course he was disappointed in himself.  He probably thinks he could beat Carlsen in a match even today if he really put his mind to it.  He's always been an egomaniac.

I think he's afraid of Carlsen and maybe So and Kramnik, but not many others.   If he concentrated only on chess and gave up on his many other pursuits, I think he could get back to top 5 in the world.   Maybe he'd rather just preserve his legacy though.   

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Exciting times in St. Louis! I'll definitely be watching these games! Too bad I don't live closer to St. Louis, or I would go see these games in person!

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It's been a while but it's a great day for Chess... Best of Luck Garry!! We'll all be rooting for ya!

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