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Russian troops not in Ukraine. When 1 year ago to power through illegal coup came the current government (and in fact the junta), the first thing it issued a decree: lifting the ban on the promotion of fascism and that only in Ukraine only one official language, without the right to regions where they live Russian, make Russian a second state language. In Donetsk and Lugansk regions (in general they are called Donbass or Novorossija) Russian very much, and they rebelled. Kiev called them "separatists" began shelling and bombing peaceful cities.
Junta itself became plunder the country, brought to that for the year rate of their currency, the hryvnia against the dollar increased by 4 times. In Ukraine, almost no state, there is a gang "Bandera", "Azov", "Aydar", they are not subject to the Government. In Odessa, May 2, 2014 protesters were driven into the Trade-Union's Palace, set fire to the house, many people died.
One of the Odessa butchers (ukrainian member of parliament) was arrested today in Moscow, probably thinking he could do a second Maidan there.
Even CNN and other western media outlets never regularly used the term "invade" and are not using it at all now. The reason is that many CNN reporters are very smart and at the top of their trade, they wouldn't stand for such mockery. Only internet idiots who don't know anything would believe such a thing.
In general, anyone who does not believe in the absence of Russian troops in Ukraine: NATO and military experts, and the United States came to the conclusion - if Russia will attack the Ukraine, on the third day she conquered Kiev, and in the fifth - Lviv.
IMHO if Russian troops would enter the Ukraine, the junta leaders fled to their aircraft to the West, and who did not - as would have been arrested for the International Military Tribunal - an analogue of the Nuremberg Tribunal (No. 2).
Ordinary people in Ukraine had been deceived and continue to deceive. A year ago, he said, it prevents Russia to join the European Union. If we enter, all will pay 10 000 euros, the elderly pension of 5000 euros, visa-free entry into Europe. People do not read the Association Agreement (about 900 pages). And there are a lot of problems would be for Ukraine. For example, lead their industry to European standards. President Yanukovych at the time estimated that this improvement will cost $160 billion.
Besides, it would take to shift all the railroad tracks across the country to bring the gauge to the European standard.
Now Donbass (Donetsk, Lugansk) Civil war.
Read and watch channels that can not afford to lie. For example, Russia Today.
trysts wrote:
Russia didn't invade the Ukraine. Since you believe they did, then maybe you just don't know anything about what's going on in the Ukraine, or Russia, at all?
Sure they did. There Russian soldiers in civilian clothes fighting in the Eastern Ukraine right niw today. Also, Russia had no ligitimate right to annex Crimea, they had a limited right to use the harbor,that's all. And since they abused that privlege,we are going to deny them that usage,in the future.
Yes? Prove it.
And who are going to deny anything, you?
Crimea was an autonomous republic in Ukraine and there passed a referendum on secession from Ukraine. More than 90% of the votes were cast for secession from the Ukraine. Crimean parliament decided. A second decision of the Parliament of the Crimea was joining Russia. In general, the Crimea was illegally transferred Ukrainian republic within the Soviet Union, Khrushchev's willful decision.
About Russian citizens in the civil war in Ukraine. There are only volunteers. How were the volunteers from the citizens of Ukraine in Chechnya on the side of the Chechens and during the events of August 8, 2008 in South Ossetia on the side of the Georgians.
KalashNK wrote:
Yes? Prove it.
And who are going to deny anything, you?
Yes
lol, Kaspaov getting arrested is years ago. This is old news.
WT2008 wrote:
Crimea was an autonomous republic in Ukraine and there passed a referendum on secession from Ukraine. More than 90% of the votes were cast for secession from the Ukraine. Crimean parliament decided. A second decision of the Parliament of the Crimea was joining Russia. In general, the Crimea was illegally transferred Ukrainian republic within the Soviet Union, Khrushchev's willful decision.
About Russian citizens in the civil war in Ukraine. There are only volunteers. How were the volunteers from the citizens of Ukraine in Chechnya on the side of the Chechens and during the events of August 8, 2008 in South Ossetia on the side of the Georgians.
The referendum was invalid. Citizens in Kiev didn't get to vote.If Texas wanted to leave the Union,I would have the right to vote.I live in illinois.
The situation in Crimea - is the same as that in Kosovo. You are against the independence of Kosovo?
No it's not. Kosovo has nothing to do with Crimea. We are against any effort by Russia to rebuild it's empire.
Mar 1, 2015
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Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
Sure they did. There Russian soldiers in civilian clothes fighting in the Eastern Ukraine right niw today. Also, Russia had no ligitimate right to annex Crimea, they had a limited right to use the harbor,that's all. And since they abused that privlege,we are going to deny them that usage,in the future.
I can't respond to you any better than the other posters have in the last few comments. Though I would like to say that it really takes an awful amount of arrogance and hypocrisy to keep citing what "we" are going to do at Russia's doorstep, and saying what is legal or not. It's so absurd that you must have a microchip inserted in your brain courtesy of the U.S. State Dept.
Russia has no voice in setting the international agenda.They were voted out of the G8.The world gave them a seat at the grownups table,and they blew it.We should give that slot to Brazil,or India. They are next up.
Oh, by the way, a Kiev general said a while ago that no Russian troops were fighting in Novorossiya. But I suppose you have better sources, like the rubbish western media.
russia certainly did invade and continues to cross the borders of a sovereign nation putin is a bully that would like to go back to cold war borders
Mar 1, 2015
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matubadu1 wrote:
russia certainly did invade and continues to cross the borders of a sovereign nation putin is a bully that would like to go back to cold war borders
It's must be a disease which makes Americans lack the embarrassment of speaking about borders and sovereign nations?
Please, use Google with the text:
Defense Minister of Ukraine said that in Ukraine there are no Russian troops
and look here
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/02-02-2015/129672-obama_admits_ukraine_coup-0/
and others.
Russia didn't invade the Ukraine. Since you believe they did, then maybe you just don't know anything about what's going on in the Ukraine, or Russia, at all?