how much should i charge to teach chess

yes ofc a garbage man didnt have to do much for it, but still he is forced to do a job that stinks.

I highly doubt that someone with IM strength has not the possibility to play in tournament to get the norm. Maybe i know not enough about chess for that mater, but it seems really really unlikely, not mention that his strenght would be so obvious that all kind fo people would trying to help him, to jump on the bandwagon of his tremendious playing strength.

Besides even if you cant make it to IM tournaments you still have a FM title.

 i think you confusing cause and effect. I said you should be a title player to be great teacher, i didnt say if you are a titled player you are a great teacher. Ofc there are horrible teachers that have titles, not to mention the dishonest ones.

but on the other hand if you are not talented enough to gain a title, chances are you have holes in your chess knowledge, you dont understand the inner working, the related inner concepts in the harmony of the chess game.

Sure you could still teach but i guess still students would miss out on something.

A chess player is not forced to take the job. They climb that hill, it is their choice.

I am CERTAIN there are plenty of players who do not have nor wish to ever get a title who can play at the FM and above levels. I am also equally as certain that there is some frail little elderly guy in a small village somewhere who beats chess boards with his bare hands and can equal a Grandmaster. The thing is that for the old man, chess may not seem important enough to scrounge up the funding necessary to make it to tournament after tournament spending money he likely does not have. But perhaps he does have the money, in which case he simply doesn't care enough.

Now this statement, "You should be a title player to be great teacher..." is so terribly wrong that I simply have to correct it:

You do not have to have a title to be a great teacher. Now lets assume I misunderstood you:

You may be a great teacher but no have a title.

It truly does work both ways.

For example: For some strange and magical reason I have the ability to pronounce, correctly, most words in languages I simply do not know. I could never give you the meaning, but I can pronounce them if they are in lettering I understand. Therefore, I could teach the proper pronounciation, but it would be up to you to find out it's meaning.

Point is, a 1600 rated player should be allowed to charge similar feels to a 1900 or even a 2100 depending on the basis for the charge. How can you say that teaching the basics of chess to a child or beginner is any less important than teaching more advanced tactical and positional ideas?

You cannot.

Crucial point, which some people apparently do not understand.

And reversly, if you are a top GM but cannot teach properly, you are worth less (as a teacher) as some random club player that can explain things.

practical problem: how do you measure teaching skill?
the easy part in advertising your chess skill is that it's easily verifiable (look up your rating). but how can one verify your teaching skill?

i guess the practical way is to build up a reputation so good that people will think of you when they think of chess coaching. if you don't have one, having an easily accessible sample of one your classes might be a good idea.

you may be a great teacher but no chess teacher

You don't have to be a GM to teach every aspect of chess.

but you need at least be strong titled player, do you remember how heisman evaded the chess question about a position in his show??

and he already has a title, untitled players should have even more problems.

It depends what you're teaching.

A 1500 player probably can't teach advanced strategical concepts very well or analyse games in great depth, but they can teach simple tactics and checkmates.

Yes ofc that is true. but i personally would feel weird if teached that and they had a another question about chess i might not be able answer.

Yeah I agree with that.

You could charge 2 million an hour if your student was blinded by the light.

The whole art is making them believe that 5) is included in 2).

good one :D

(for those who don't know - it isn't)

I want to teach chess later on in a few years once I have gained more knowledge and experience in chess myself. While I know skill doesn't directly translate into being a better teacher I suspect that people will give you more respect and credibility if you have a proven track record of some baseline success in chess and also have a larger pool of potential students besides beginners and new players. Maybe when I reach class A in USCF for example. Definitely want to teach someday!

dude do 15- 20 dollers a hour.