I'm 29 my goal is to reach one time in my life 2200 FIDE ELO. Is it possible?

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

In ICCF apparently 1.b4 is a forced loss (at least that's what I was told), so I can't imagine it getting an even game OTB against decent prep. Obviously no one is going to refute 1.b4 OTB, I just mean white will be worse.

 

I don't know much theory for 1.b4, I assume most people don't. I wonder what you play, because after 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Nf6 3.Bxe5 Bxb4 black's next 5 moves are pretty much automatic, 0-0, Re8, d5, c5, Nc6

Obviously this isn't the only line for white, but I assume black gets a nice edge however white deviates if black knows some theory.

oh the likelyhood of that is quite small.  besides you dont just play one card. will my opponent prepare that deeply for 3 4 or 5 moves just as unusual? or say you play a more universal style ,will he prepare agaisnt your mainstream openings , your sidelines and your surprise weapon?

 

people that play weird stuff rarely only play just one of them for a very practical reason. its actually somewhat too easy to prepare agaisnt you otherwise.  you play the whole roulette to make it a knightmare to prepare agaisnt. of course this has the disadvantage that you must know a lot of other stuff inside out. its a trade off.

Oh ok, so you're not playing 1.b4 every game. That makes more sense.

 

I knew a guy who always played as black 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6

My first game against him I got an equal position, was outplayed in the mid game, but we eventually drew.

So of course I go home and memorize a few deep lines. Too bad I didn't get to play him again.

for example, i currently play 1.b4 1.nc3 (mostly non-transpositions) and 1.b3 but i can easily play lines from 1.e4 1.d4 1.c4 1.nf3 1.g3 and 1.f4 very confortably at any time.

 

with black i mostly play 1.b6 and 1.nc6 agaisnt anything whitedoes, but believe it or not, a lot of structures you learn in those positions easily lend themselves to learning, french, sicilian, scandinavian and pirc. i can very easily adopt these as well.  

 

its in fact what i intend to do as i get a bit stronger, fully diversify. 

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Actually I totally get that. I played some offbeat stuff for a while, and it's really amazing how it transposes into all sorts of openings across the full spectrum of chess.

 

For example 1.e4 d5 2.exd Nf6 sometimes with e6 sometimes with c6 gives you all sorts of french, caro, slav, but also some sicilians, QGA. After 1.e4 d5 e5 of course you can get advance french structures but the bishops can come out, so caro-like stuff too. After 1.e4 d5 2.Nc3 d4 you can get some KID / Spanish like structures. 1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 is a Blackmar Diemer.

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It's possible, but you need to have a lot self discipline and patience. The key is in that two factors. You are working 3h daily on tactics? That is great it will help you, it will develop your tactical vision but in a real game you need to luck not only your possible moves - you need to look for your opponent best move or some of his/her possible replays to your move. Great exercise for that is mate in two moves (or three)! You take a notebook and then you write any possible move you can make and then you write every possible move your opponent can make. You keep repeating that until you give a checkmate in just two move. Writing will help you see all the moves, it will help you develop calculating ability and it will help you stop blundering. 

But that is just one piece of the puzzle. Chess is not just tactics. To be master you need to be very good at calculating, strategy, endgames, positional play and openings. You can train openings last when you stop blunder pieces. Stop playing blitz games and start your learning from zero. Give your self a time, that is very important. You will get better, just not in a short period of time, not over night. First step - try to reach 2000-2100 in tactical trainer. When that is accomplished, train endgames, thru endgames you will train tactics, calculation, a bit of strategy and vision. When you can look at the board at endgame and get a filling that you can see the result even without calculating deep (for example Q and K vs K and pawn - you have king and pawn and your opponent have K and Q, it's your move - your pawn is on the 6. rank your king is close , your opponent king is far away and the queen is in the center. What now? You will probably resign, or try to promote or try some deep calculation. But if you know your endgame theory and you did some practice you would know that if the pawn  move to the 7. rank and if that pawn is the rook or the bishop pawn  and the opposite king is far - the game is draw - if the pawn is the central pawn or a night pawn the game is lost (not always but  in 99%)) then is the time to start learning chess theory - why is developing important, why is the center important, the open file, the semi open file, the weak square,  the weak point, what is a combination, how to realize the material advantage, strong square, outposts, the queen-bishop battery, the queen-rook battery, the windmill, the pin and why is important to analyze your games and the need to analyze masters games  ... All the material is out there all you need is SELF DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE. The rest will come to you thru time.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:

Actually I totally get that. I played some offbeat stuff for a while, and it's really amazing how it transposes into all sorts of openings across the full spectrum of chess.

 

For example 1.e4 d5 2.exd Nf6 sometimes with e6 sometimes with c6 gives you all sorts of french, caro, slav, but also some sicilians, QGA. After 1.e4 d5 e5 of course you can get advance french structures but the bishops can come out, so caro-like stuff too. After 1.e4 d5 2.Nc3 d4 you can get some KID / Spanish like structures. 1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 is a Blackmar Diemer.

and something like the reverse is psychologically relevant. the amount of times i have played a line and the opponent disrespects its independent value and trying to play it normally gets the opponent in big trouble or at least into some difficulties he didnt account for.

 

my favorite example of this, is this line of 1nc3.

i have had so many opponents fall for this, thinking white has nothing better to do then to transpose to some type of scotch, and they are already in a nearly lost position.

 

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lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

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lol, I never get 10 moves wins.

The 2nd one is pretty funny. They're on auto pilot, then they're dead.

I've seen it before, but I forget about the ...c6 ...a5 stuff vs 1.b4. I don't know those lines though, so I wouldn't play them. I would ask you what you think is best, but you probably don't want to give away any secrets wink.png

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here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

That is Greco chess pattern if i am not mistaken? Nice to see it works in OTB against master evil.png

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, I never get 10 moves wins.

The 2nd one is pretty funny. They're on auto pilot, then they're dead.

I've seen it before, but I forget about the ...c6 ...a5 stuff vs 1.b4. I don't know those lines though, so I wouldn't play them. I would ask you what you think is best, but you probably don't want to give away any secrets

ironically, i actually woudnt know what to play vs 1.b4! if i suspect my opponent doesnt fully know his theory the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines  are a good try, thy are some tricky move orders black can try that can lead him slightly better if white plays it in automatic.

(They are certain subteties white must know, for example, that if black plays early c5 the white bishop belongs in d3 not e2, or when white must play early qc2 and when not to prevent bf5, or whether to play d4 when white cans often after castle or not (normally qb3 or qa4 and rc1 first is superior to d4 right away), and even one line where black sacrifices a rook for two pawns but white must know the exact refutation). even a lot of masters on the white side of 1.b4  dont know all of this.

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darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

Oh my goodness.  The Experts played like me, a Patzer, lol.  If I was the Expert, uh, and I lost like that, there's a good chance I'd be embarrassed, lol.  

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darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

Oh my goodness.  The Experts played like me, a Patzer, lol.  If I was the Expert, uh, and I lost like that, there's a good chance I'd be embarrassed, lol.  

well i did lose once very quickly, because i forgot a simple trap and was having a bad day.

and i felt ridiculous for missing this lol. i resigned, re-entered my section on the 2 day schedule, and went undefeated  (ironically so did the guy who beat me lol).

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darkunorthodox88 wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

Oh my goodness.  The Experts played like me, a Patzer, lol.  If I was the Expert, uh, and I lost like that, there's a good chance I'd be embarrassed, lol.  

well i did lose once very quickly, because i forgot a simple trap and was having a bad day.

 

and i felt ridiculous for missing this lol. i resigned, re-entered my section on the 2 day schedule, and went undefeated  (ironically so did the guy who beat me lol).

 

Whoa.  6-move resignation.  Do you recall your approximate rating when you played this miniature?

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SeniorPatzer wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

Oh my goodness.  The Experts played like me, a Patzer, lol.  If I was the Expert, uh, and I lost like that, there's a good chance I'd be embarrassed, lol.  

well i did lose once very quickly, because i forgot a simple trap and was having a bad day.

 

and i felt ridiculous for missing this lol. i resigned, re-entered my section on the 2 day schedule, and went undefeated  (ironically so did the guy who beat me lol).

 

Whoa.  6-move resignation.  Do you recall your approximate rating when you played this miniature?

Anand lost a game like this, in less than 10 moves.

So I guess no one is immune.

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SeniorPatzer wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

lol, yeah, that's fast. I've never seen that before, but I've been tricked by 1...Nc6 so I assume 1.Nc3 is also tricky.

want to see my two shortest otb games vs 2 experts?

 

and i was the first to go to my hotel room after he rage quit.

 

here is another one that was virtually resignable.

and the rest is simple.

 

Oh my goodness.  The Experts played like me, a Patzer, lol.  If I was the Expert, uh, and I lost like that, there's a good chance I'd be embarrassed, lol.  

well i did lose once very quickly, because i forgot a simple trap and was having a bad day.

 

and i felt ridiculous for missing this lol. i resigned, re-entered my section on the 2 day schedule, and went undefeated  (ironically so did the guy who beat me lol).

 

Whoa.  6-move resignation.  Do you recall your approximate rating when you played this miniature?

2000 ish? maybe 2100

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Anand resigns in 6 moves:

 

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018015

 

 

If Qe7 then Nd5. I've had this trap in a few casual games OTB, and online.

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Wow Preggo. Do you know if that was a blitz game? If not I do not know what to say.

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superchessmachine wrote:

Wow Preggo. Do you know if that was a blitz game? If not I do not know what to say.

Not blitz!

 

Anand explains:

 

<A few seconds later [after playing 5...Bf5] 6.Qe2 dawned on me, and Alonso as well was really shocked. I think he thought that a strong grandmaster could not play such a move, so he sat there calculating himself. And now I had the choice, which was to just make my move, play a piece down for another twenty moves so that none of these magazines could publish it as a miniature, and you don't need to be reminded for the rest of your life that you lost a game in six moves. But that would mean that my fellow players in the tournament hall might come by and notice that I'm a piece down and start laughing ... So I decided to go for Plan B, which was to resign and then get out of the hall as quickly as possible, so that nobody would notice. This worked successfully - for many days people thought I had agreed to a short draw with Alonso - a very short draw.>

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GM Vishy Anand after a 6-move loss:  "So I decided to go for Plan B, which was to resign and then get out of the hall as quickly as possible, so that nobody would notice. This worked successfully - for many days people thought I had agreed to a short draw with Alonso - a very short draw."

 

Ha ha ha ha ha, hee, hee, hee, hee, ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ho, ho!  ROFL.  This patzer is laughing and feeling good at the humiliated misery of a former World Champion.  I'm not a mean man, just delighted at the humanity of a Super GM having their blunders too.

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SeniorPatzer wrote:

GM Vishy Anand after a 6-move loss:  "So I decided to go for Plan B, which was to resign and then get out of the hall as quickly as possible, so that nobody would notice. This worked successfully - for many days people thought I had agreed to a short draw with Alonso - a very short draw."

 

Ha ha ha ha ha, hee, hee, hee, hee, ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ho, ho!  ROFL.  This patzer is laughing and feeling good at the humiliated misery of a former World Champion.  I'm not a mean man, just delighted at the humanity of a Super GM having their blunders too.

Definitely.

 

I love stuff like this because there were times I felt totally humiliated for the bad moves I played or games I lost... but to know professional players do it... and for them not only is it their profession, the whole chess world is watching too. It makes me feel much better. Not out of any schadenfreude, but because I feel like I have permission to forgive myself and move on.

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SeniorPatzer wrote:

former World Champion.

The game was played in 1988, so it would still be 12 years before Anand got the title.

Interestingly at age 19 I see Anand was "only" #95 in the world.

And at age 20... he was not even in the top 100?

What?

I thought all the great players were in the top 20 or 30 by the time they were 20 years old. This is very surprising to me.