Why don't other kids like chess

Sort:
Avatar of chessiseasyidkwhy

Lol

Avatar of long_quach

I went to a friend's house. Played a video game with his little brother. Some first person shoot-em-up on a PS2.

I noticed the disadvantage and advantage immediately.

The disadvantage is more pronounced in my mind. This kind of game lacks the abstract thinking of Chess.

The advantage is that it is concrete. It is very realistic in real world physics, even if exaggerated.

Example of abstraction. Very simple. SmackDown! Here Comes the Pain, and MMA too, is a game of rock-paper-scissors.

And Chess too is a big game of Tic-Tac-Toe.

We need more abstraction thinking than "concrete" thinking.

Avatar of long_quach
ArgoNavis wrote:

People that don't like chess are worthless.

Did somebody say eugenics?

Read the story of The Blind Men and the Elephant, also a story from India.

Chess is great.

But each art is only 1 part of the puzzle.

Life is more like cards than chess. Life is cards. You cut half the genetic deck from each parents and shuffle them together and you get a progeny.

"Chance and happenstance happeneth to everything." - Ecclesiastes.

Avatar of long_quach

Girls don't like playing toy soldiers.

They like playing Barbie Dolls.

Avatar of long_quach
Drawgood wrote:
First of all chess doesn't cause kids to have the best marks/grades at school. I strongly believe it is a myth that is there because of correlation but not causation. 

"All myths have a basis in reality." - The Encyclopedia of Myth and Magic.

Chess is mechanical. One step leads into another.

In chess, you learn to develop "heuristics".

Chess is inextricably linked with reading and writing. And in the modern age, computers, and Internet.

Football coaches, MMA coaches are essentially chess players. That is what chess is. Military planning.

Chess gave rise to Artificial Intelligence. It literally is Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.

Avatar of Zachy42

Team chess all the way

Avatar of long_quach
Drawgood wrote:
1. Also many people want to move around and don't want to sit in a chair for too long.
2. Chess is not rewarding long term. In sports there is double reward. People can become physically fit and those who are very skilled could hope to become famous and get rich from that. At least many believe that.
3. Chess itself is not popular and doesn't appear cool to people.
4. There are many other intellect requiring activities that kids can choose such a strategy and puzzle video games.
5. I am sure others can think of more reasons.

I run 3 tennis Meetups.

You wouldn't believe how chess-like tennis is. Tapping the ball over the net is like pawns. Down the like is like rooks. Cross court is like bishops. Where you are is like king. Lobs are like cannons (in Chinese Chess). How you turn your body is like knights.

I play tennis to teach people chess in disguise. A time honored tradition in Kung Fu. Wax-on-wax off in the Karate Kid. Watch the Kung Fu movie The Mystery of Chess Boxing.

2. In sports you can injure yourself. Not everything is rainbow and sunshine, including chess.

3. Cool or not is how you present yourself.

4. Name one.

5. Let's see.

Extra: Back to abstract thinking.

Doubles tennis is very much like Go.

You can have 1 player up front, and 1 in the back. And how far in front and how far in back.

And the mirror version of that.

2 in the front.

2 in the back.

2 in the middle. The "I" formation.

Each formation you take a space and give up a space, each with different strengths and weaknesses. Very Go-like.

Avatar of Sabin_Laurent

Ah, the eternal mystery of why other kids fail to appreciate the magnificent game of chess! It's truly perplexing, isn't it? I mean, who needs knights, rooks, bishops, and kings when you can have colorful, animated creatures with superpowers battling it out in a digital realm? Clearly, the allure of an ancient game steeped in strategy, logic, and centuries of tradition is lost on those feeble-minded youngsters. They must be too busy chasing imaginary creatures or jumping on virtual platforms to comprehend the sheer brilliance of chess. Oh, how they're missing out on the exhilarating thrill of contemplating moves for hours on end and anxiously awaiting their opponent's next strategic blunder. But fear not, my chess-loving friend, for we are the chosen few, the knights of the 64 squares, destined to engage in epic battles of intellect while the others remain lost in their pixelated fantasies. Long live the noble game of chess!

Avatar of long_quach
Drawgood wrote:
Also many people want to move around and don't want to sit in a chair for too long.

Think of a movie.

A re-creation of reality.

Sure the actors on screen are moving.

But there are a bunch of the crew sitting down.

The first is the writer. Without the writer, there is no movie.

The camera man. Sound man, lighting man.

Director.

Editing.

Make-up.

Costume design.

Music composition.

Playing music.

The promo guy, "In a world . . ."

All relatively stationary stuff, that's where a lot of the work is done.

Avatar of long_quach
macer75 wrote:

Why don't some people like chess? Same reason why some people don't like rock climbing, or broccoli, or video games, or rainy days, or certain kinds of music - because different people like different things. That's really the gist of it.

I don't think that people don't don't like chess, or do don't like chess, or don't do like chess. What am I saying?

I don't think it is that people don't like chess. It is not like they tried it and don't like it.

I tried basketball. I don't like it. I like tennis.

Too much stress on my ankles. The twisting, turning.

Dribbling the ball makes no sense in real life. Tennis is very real, very "kenjitsu".

The action is divided by a team.

The ball can only go into one spot.

I tried basketball. I didn't like it, for valid reasons.

I think people don't play chess because they didn't even try it. Not because they tried it and don't like it.

Avatar of long_quach

@Sabin_Laurent

You forget how low-tech chess is.

Just an analog TV. Look inside it. The circuit boards. The diodes, capacitors, transistors, conductors. It is a whole world inside.

Now computers, with micro-chips, microscopic chips. circuits, computer programs, Internet.

Heck. Electricity. How do you make electricity?

And telephone lines in the days of modems and America Online.

Video games are built on unimaginable scale and sophistication.

Chess is super dooper low-tech. The high tech is us playing it.

Avatar of Sabin_Laurent

Chess is indeed a low-tech game compared to the advancements in modern technology, with its intricate circuitry, microchips, computer programs, and the internet. However, the complexity and sophistication in chess lie within the human mind and its strategic abilities, making it a fascinating contrast to the high-tech world.

Avatar of long_quach
long_quach wrote:

@Sabin_Laurent

You forget how low-tech chess is.

Even a plastic Barbie Doll, or a plastic chess set, is high-tech. Chemical engineering high-tech.

Plastic toys were only available in the 20th century. Yesterday, basically.

Wood has been around since forever. It "grows on trees".

Avatar of long_quach
long_quach wrote:

I think people don't play chess because they didn't even try it. Not because they tried it and don't like it.

I bet if I tried playing Barbie Dolls I would like it.

Barbie: Hi Ken, what are you doing?

Ken: I'm hanging around on the beach, surfing.

Barbie: I don't like a beach bum. I will go out with somebody who has a jay oh bee (job).

Hah hah!

Avatar of long_quach
Sabin_Laurent wrote:

Chess is indeed a low-tech game

I can kick it old school like nobody can.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/where-do-go-to-find-other-chess-players-irl?page=1#comment-88634357

Avatar of long_quach
Sabin_Laurent wrote:

Chess is indeed a low-tech game compared to the advancements in modern technology,

I have a Nokia brick phone. It's a cell phone that only make phone calls (and text). That in itself is technologically sophisticated.

I got a membership at Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness don't use the bar code printed on a piece of paper, laminated in plastic.

You need an I-Phone (Internet Phone), and a QR code, to get in Planet Fitness.

A gym. Metal weight. Gravity. Lift. It doesn't get more primitive.

This is thoughtless movement toward high tecnology.

By the way, I just looked up the history of the QR Code.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/why-chess-is-a-waste-of-time-and-intelligence-yes?page=9#comment-88719231

Avatar of whiteknight1968

Kids don't like chess because it is a game for nerds. Girls aren't interested in the guys in the chess club. They are geeks, they have no street cred and no social skills either, girls want to be with the jocks and the cool kids (hockey boys in Canada).

Chess is for losers.

Avatar of long_quach
whiteknight1968 wrote:

Kids don't like chess because it is a game for nerds.

Revenge of the Nerds.

It's a movie and true to real life.