Why is chess not at the olympics? - Chess Forums - Page 16

AdnanAmjadS · 2021-06-02T05:48:11-07:00

I think we should make a petition to make chess an Olympic sport

Tristan-Gurjot214

Jun 15, 2021

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#301

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

icyboyyy wrote:

in shooting, you actually need some physical skill to aim. in chess, you just need to have good mental capabilities and have a working hand to move pieces

Even a working hand is not necessary. If someone has no hands, they are allowed to simply call out the moves, or have someone else move the pieces for them. Sports do not have that allowance.

Chess is a sport

Then explain how board games, such as chess, allow for no physical external use of the body. Explain how all sports require require that, but chess does not.

Give even one example of a sport where there is no physical external use of the body. Pfren certainly tried. I think he said curling and archery requires no muscle use. He was a little vague on explaining exactly how that works but you know how that goes. So maybe you can pick up where he left off. Explain how if chess were a sport, how no muscle use is necessary, where all sports do in fact require it. Explain away.

I think that go might be a sport, shooting is a sport, archery is a sport, there are many sports where no muscle is needed.

KingCobra280

Jun 15, 2021

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#302

Tristan-Gurjot214 wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

icyboyyy wrote:

in shooting, you actually need some physical skill to aim. in chess, you just need to have good mental capabilities and have a working hand to move pieces

Even a working hand is not necessary. If someone has no hands, they are allowed to simply call out the moves, or have someone else move the pieces for them. Sports do not have that allowance.

Chess is a sport

Then explain how board games, such as chess, allow for no physical external use of the body. Explain how all sports require require that, but chess does not.

Give even one example of a sport where there is no physical external use of the body. Pfren certainly tried. I think he said curling and archery requires no muscle use. He was a little vague on explaining exactly how that works but you know how that goes. So maybe you can pick up where he left off. Explain how if chess were a sport, how no muscle use is necessary, where all sports do in fact require it. Explain away.

I think that go might be a sport, shooting is a sport, archery is a sport, there are many sports where no muscle is needed.

archery needs muscle.

BenIBB

Jun 15, 2021

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#303

Tristan-Gurjot214 I agree with you although archery definitely does recquire physical strength in some aspects of the game.

KingCobra280

Jun 15, 2021

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#304

BenIBB wrote:

Tristan-Gurjot214 I agree with you although archery definitely does recquire physical strength in some aspects of the game.

yes. true

DasBurner

Jun 15, 2021

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#305

KingCobra280 wrote:

DaBabysBurner wrote:

1. Chess does not involve physical exertion. (Please don't say a bunch of crap like "Chess players burn so many calories, expend so much energy while thinking", etc. Those are examples of mental exertion, not physical

2. Live chess is not entertaining to watch. Waiting for a player to make a move in classical chess takes a great quantity of time, even more so than waiting for a baseball player to stand up to bat (or changing sides after innings or whatever the complaint is about baseball being slow, there's many), which is generally described as one of the most boring aspects of any sport. Analyzing the games after they have completed can be "fun" if that's your kind of thing, but live, classical chess doesn't provide any sort of entertainment while the match actually occurs (for the vast majority of people, there are always outliers but I don't understand the thrill of watching people like Radjabov for multiple hours just to watch a Berlin draw)

1. Moving pieces

2. People find it entertaining

1. The physical exertion required to move pieces that weigh 1 oz (.06 pounds) is extremely minimal, borderline nonexistent

2. if you say so

lfPatriotGames

Jun 15, 2021

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#306

KingCobra280 wrote:

BenIBB wrote:

I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight

yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts

Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.

Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.

PerpetualPatzer123

Jun 15, 2021

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#307

KingCobra280 wrote:

Tristan-Gurjot214 wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

icyboyyy wrote:

in shooting, you actually need some physical skill to aim. in chess, you just need to have good mental capabilities and have a working hand to move pieces

Even a working hand is not necessary. If someone has no hands, they are allowed to simply call out the moves, or have someone else move the pieces for them. Sports do not have that allowance.

Chess is a sport

Then explain how board games, such as chess, allow for no physical external use of the body. Explain how all sports require require that, but chess does not.

Give even one example of a sport where there is no physical external use of the body. Pfren certainly tried. I think he said curling and archery requires no muscle use. He was a little vague on explaining exactly how that works but you know how that goes. So maybe you can pick up where he left off. Explain how if chess were a sport, how no muscle use is necessary, where all sports do in fact require it. Explain away.

I think that go might be a sport, shooting is a sport, archery is a sport, there are many sports where no muscle is needed.

archery needs muscle.

Shooting also.

PerpetualPatzer123

Jun 15, 2021

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#308

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

BenIBB wrote:

I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight

yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts

Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.

Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.

Sports require skill, not physical skill.

lfPatriotGames

Jun 15, 2021

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#309

I'm beginning to think there is a special class of people who specialize in putting no thought into either what words are, or what they mean.

lfPatriotGames

Jun 15, 2021

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#310

AunTheKnight wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

BenIBB wrote:

I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight

yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts

Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.

Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.

Sports require skill, not physical skill.

Well if you have a hard time with the word skill, how about the word muscle. Do you know what a muscle is, what it does, and how it relates to body movement?

KingCobra280

Jun 15, 2021

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#311

DaBabysBurner wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

DaBabysBurner wrote:

1. Chess does not involve physical exertion. (Please don't say a bunch of crap like "Chess players burn so many calories, expend so much energy while thinking", etc. Those are examples of mental exertion, not physical

2. Live chess is not entertaining to watch. Waiting for a player to make a move in classical chess takes a great quantity of time, even more so than waiting for a baseball player to stand up to bat (or changing sides after innings or whatever the complaint is about baseball being slow, there's many), which is generally described as one of the most boring aspects of any sport. Analyzing the games after they have completed can be "fun" if that's your kind of thing, but live, classical chess doesn't provide any sort of entertainment while the match actually occurs (for the vast majority of people, there are always outliers but I don't understand the thrill of watching people like Radjabov for multiple hours just to watch a Berlin draw)

1. Moving pieces

2. People find it entertaining

1. The physical exertion required to move pieces that weigh 1 oz (.06 pounds) is extremely minimal, borderline nonexistent

2. if you say so

1. Even if it is extremely minimal, it still counts

2. Between 100 and 200 million have followed the match Anand – Carlsen

hiikooll

Jun 15, 2021

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#312

I think it’s because it’s not a sports game. However, it is still a sports game for the brain.

BenIBB

Jun 15, 2021

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#313

I completely agree.

PerpetualPatzer123

Jun 15, 2021

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#314

lfPatriotGames wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

BenIBB wrote:

I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight

yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts

Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.

Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.

Sports require skill, not physical skill.

Well if you have a hard time with the word skill, how about the word muscle. Do you know what a muscle is, what it does, and how it relates to body movement?

Look, I just pointed out that the definition says skill. “Physical exertion and skill.”

lfPatriotGames

Jun 15, 2021

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#315

hiikooll wrote:

I think it’s because it’s not a sports game. However, it is still a sports game for the brain.

Yes. That is the distinction a few here do not understand. A competition, for fun using the brain is a game. Using your brain (and muscles) is a sport.

There would be no point in having two separate words if everything is both. Chess is a mental competition, not a physical one.

PerpetualPatzer123

Jun 15, 2021

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#316

Okay. Chess is a mind sport. Finished.

lfPatriotGames

Jun 15, 2021

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#317

AunTheKnight wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

KingCobra280 wrote:

BenIBB wrote:

I sort of agree with this, chess is still a sport, just a mental challenge rather than physical, different to other olympic sports which are physically challenging. @AunTheKnight

yay, chess is a sport. There is little physical involved but it still counts

Since you haven't explained how sports can be played without using any muscles, then your claim about chess being a sport is not believable. It sounds like you are just making it up, and don't really believe it yourself.

Chess doesn't requires physical skill. But you say it does because it's a sport. So explain that. If you can't, then we will have to assume you are either being deceptive or don't really believe it.

Sports require skill, not physical skill.

Well if you have a hard time with the word skill, how about the word muscle. Do you know what a muscle is, what it does, and how it relates to body movement?

Look, I just pointed out that the definition says skill. “Physical exertion and skill.”

Yes. Not that hard to understand. But lets say you are still having a hard time with it. Lets just focus on the physical exertion part. Chess requires ZERO physical exertion (but a lot of mental exertion). The FIDE rulebook makes allowances for people who cannot see, cannot use any muscles, or have other disabilities that would affect their play. Sports do not have that.

If chess is a sport, can you explain how it's the ONLY one where you don't have to actually physically participate? Doesn't that seem a bit odd to you?

CristianoRonaldosuuu

Jun 15, 2021

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#318

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+chess+a+sport&oq=is+chess+a+sport&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9.6275j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

HAPPY???

KingCobra280

Jun 15, 2021

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#319

Thechezzbozz wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+chess+a+sport&oq=is+chess+a+sport&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9.6275j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

HAPPY???

they probably won't be happy. I'm unfollowing this thread. I can't believe how many people refuse to believe it

Jaguar000777

Jun 15, 2021

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#320

Is this really an article, seriously? A board game is not a sport. Scrabble, trivial pursuit, poker, bridge, bingo, debating.... there is mental skill/acumen involved in all of those things. They are not sports. Neither is chess. Unless you resort to all kinds of convoluted thinking and definitions because you are a complete lunatic that does not want to accept that. Chess requires a lot of skill, mad respect if you are good at it. But that doesn't make you an athlete. Nothing that requires no PHYSICAL skill or athleticism whatsoever, or that Stephen Hawking could play, is a sport.