A guy told me to resign a game recently.
I replied that it was not his place to tell me when to resign. I will resign when I am ready.
The game was certainly lost, but to confound his rudeness, I decided to play a long, drawn-out endgame and waste his time.
well you showed him!!!
worth noting--it was rude of him to tell you to resign. at least you were able to be the bigger dick down the stretch. what's the saying about 2 wrongs?
How uncivilized!
It was intended to be a lesson for him, and was not at all in the spirit of how I usually conduct myself.
Hopefully he may learn to stop harassing his opponents.
I also think it's extremely rude to insist on an opponent's resignation, no matter how you word it. It's also, IMO, very strange. Why would anyone complain about playing in a totally winning position? The only reason I can think of is that the person doesn't want to risk losing a game that they clearly should win. And that's clearly not a good reason for their opponent to give up.
No one has ever won a game by resigning. But plenty of people have won games that they should have lost after playing good defense.
blah blah blah.
saying gg when the game is over but still being played is not rude.
and when that side has reached the point where saying "gg" is appropriate--it is not rude. if people want to take it as rude that is their own prerogative, but i will disagree with their outlook.
if you say, gg sucker after a good move or a game changing move--yes that's rude. or typing "gg" + some snide remark? also rude. simply typing "gg" becasue you KNOW the game is over. not rude. i'm not talking about speculation here. i'm not talking about a hope that the game may be over. i'm talking about a 100% won position. how is that rude? the guy draggin the game on needs to look inward long before he cries in his watered down beer over my typing "gg"
I've actually resigned in won postions because I didn't want to slog around for 20 moves....I'd rather play another game then fart around for all that time. Of course it helps to play unrated at these times, which is what I mostly do :)
"and when that side has reached the point where saying "gg" is appropriate"
That point is when the game is finished, not when one side thinks that the other side has a hopeless position.
often the game is over when there are still moves available. but dude, you can have it. you win. typing "gg" is rude unless your oppoenent admits the game is over. the loser must decide when typing "gg" is not rude.
I also think it's extremely rude to insist on an opponent's resignation, no matter how you word it. It's also, IMO, very strange. Why would anyone complain about playing in a totally winning position? The only reason I can think of is that the person doesn't want to risk losing a game that they clearly should win. And that's clearly not a good reason for their opponent to give up.
No one has ever won a game by resigning. But plenty of people have won games that they should have lost after playing good defense.
+1
i don't ask people to resign and i think it's rude for someone to ask me to resign. if i want to play it out and try to work on my best defense that i am allowed to do so.
and on the other hand, when i'm in a winning position i like to get my mate as quickly as possible. if my opponent can defend and delay my mate, kudoos to him/her. i'll just have to try harder to mate him/her and therefore i will become better in the endgame.
in fact, i've had people resign in a losing position where it has upset me because i wanted to play it out to practice.
I gotta' admit, I'm rather indifferent. I once was agitated though by something along these lines.
I was in a pitched endgame with a fella and I, not surprisingly, made a stupid move. The game was lost for me. I resigned. Must be, though, at the same time I resigned he submitted this message: "resign."
I thought, "No kidding, really?"
I've personally won two games when players have already typed "gg" into the chat box. But even worse, in my opinion, is players typing "i have experience in this and always be draw!!!!! plz acept" when I am clearly up by three pieces.
I've personally won two games when players have already typed "gg" into the chat box. But even worse, in my opinion, is players typing "i have experience in this and always be draw!!!!! plz acept" when I am clearly up by three pieces.
if your opponent typed "gg" and then lost--does that mean he didn't mean it was a good game? i see hwere you're coming from but typing "gg" is not showing someone up. it can be sure, but generally don't people actually just mean "good game"?
you should be happy you won. as far as trying to coax someone into accepting a draw that is not a draw? do we really care that much about this? are people really bothered by it? maybe people who try to get us to resign or to accept a draw should be executed!
I usually say "well-played" when I lose to an opponent who played well. But I say "good game" when I win.
...off with their heads!!!
I let it go, but told my opponent that I don't resign. We went on and played a dozen more games.
Never? Ever? Seriously?
i do think that they are right, it is terribly rude. It is as if saying "I am so clearly better than you that I can declare this game over right now!"
Yes, and sometimes a game just simply is over before it's "completed". Proven by a computer, there are upwards of even 24-move forced mates.
I wonder, is there any parallel of a player in a winning position (command over the game) and typing "gg" to say, a hopelessly lost topic thread being locked and the staffer in effect, saying "gg" by that staffer's actions? (No need to explain exactly how it's lost, just like I don't expect one to type out the remaining moves after you type "GG.")
I mean there are those posting in here saying that one should give up when the game is hopelessly lost, and yet they have elsewhere demonstrated their obstinate failure to "resign" in similar circumstances - they neither have material or position to win, only the will to drag it out.
I'm just saying - think about it. You know who you are.
That's odd, I thought the problem was more in live - I had only been thinking about live in fact.
Very different problem stemming from a very different dynamic, of course.
...no game "won" unless you prove it...only way to do that is to play the game out...
...Does anyone remember Garry Kasparov bluddering a move while playing Anand, loosing his queen then the game a short while after??...no? ...well here it is-
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A guy told me to resign a game recently.
I replied that it was not his place to tell me when to resign. I will resign when I am ready.
The game was certainly lost, but to confound his rudeness, I decided to play a long, drawn-out endgame and waste his time.
How uncivilized!