I've actually resigned in won postions because I didn't want to slog around for 20 moves....I'd rather play another game then fart around for all that time. Of course it helps to play unrated at these times, which is what I mostly do :)
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Feb 4, 2010
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bsrasmus wrote:
I also think it's extremely rude to insist on an opponent's resignation, no matter how you word it. It's also, IMO, very strange. Why would anyone complain about playing in a totally winning position? The only reason I can think of is that the person doesn't want to risk losing a game that they clearly should win. And that's clearly not a good reason for their opponent to give up.
No one has ever won a game by resigning. But plenty of people have won games that they should have lost after playing good defense.
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i don't ask people to resign and i think it's rude for someone to ask me to resign. if i want to play it out and try to work on my best defense that i am allowed to do so.
and on the other hand, when i'm in a winning position i like to get my mate as quickly as possible. if my opponent can defend and delay my mate, kudoos to him/her. i'll just have to try harder to mate him/her and therefore i will become better in the endgame.
in fact, i've had people resign in a losing position where it has upset me because i wanted to play it out to practice.
I gotta' admit, I'm rather indifferent. I once was agitated though by something along these lines.
I was in a pitched endgame with a fella and I, not surprisingly, made a stupid move. The game was lost for me. I resigned. Must be, though, at the same time I resigned he submitted this message: "resign."
I thought, "No kidding, really?"
I've personally won two games when players have already typed "gg" into the chat box. But even worse, in my opinion, is players typing "i have experience in this and always be draw!!!!! plz acept" when I am clearly up by three pieces.
Feb 4, 2010
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I usually say "well-played" when I lose to an opponent who played well. But I say "good game" when I win.
...off with their heads!!!
bsrasmus wrote:
I let it go, but told my opponent that I don't resign. We went on and played a dozen more games.
Never? Ever? Seriously?
moopster wrote:
i do think that they are right, it is terribly rude. It is as if saying "I am so clearly better than you that I can declare this game over right now!"
Yes, and sometimes a game just simply is over before it's "completed". Proven by a computer, there are upwards of even 24-move forced mates.
I wonder, is there any parallel of a player in a winning position (command over the game) and typing "gg" to say, a hopelessly lost topic thread being locked and the staffer in effect, saying "gg" by that staffer's actions? (No need to explain exactly how it's lost, just like I don't expect one to type out the remaining moves after you type "GG.")
I mean there are those posting in here saying that one should give up when the game is hopelessly lost, and yet they have elsewhere demonstrated their obstinate failure to "resign" in similar circumstances - they neither have material or position to win, only the will to drag it out.
I'm just saying - think about it. You know who you are.
Feb 4, 2010
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That's odd, I thought the problem was more in live - I had only been thinking about live in fact.
Very different problem stemming from a very different dynamic, of course.
...no game "won" unless you prove it...only way to do that is to play the game out...
...Does anyone remember Garry Kasparov bluddering a move while playing Anand, loosing his queen then the game a short while after??...no? ...well here it is-
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I actually agree with you, but not with your example, since the analogy goes only so far. In tennis, one cannot force a win. Put me up 5-1 over Federer and I will still lose. Contrast this with chess. Give any GM just a king, and give me a king and a rook, and I will win every time.
that was just like saying, can you please resign right now?..even yough that polite words was used, it is still rude and wrong..
Ok, how about "this" game? Clearly a draw, right? No one will win this debate in this topic and the "win" is not forcible - even if it totally breaks down to a flame war and gets locked.
So, how about it - we extend an offer for draw and both say "GG" to each other?
GG, no-re.
Estragon wrote:
It's rude and unneccesary. There is no obligation to resign, or to agree to a draw. There is no harm in playing it out, and no need to be rude (hopefully the opponent will also use good manners and not abandon or unneccessarily delay the game when he is dead lost).
For example, in several of the "Super-GM" games at the London Classic in December, the GMs played out simple winning and drawn endings so the fans could see why the result was reached. This was met with widespread approval from fans and commentators.
Amen.
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How uncivilized!
It was intended to be a lesson for him, and was not at all in the spirit of how I usually conduct myself.
Hopefully he may learn to stop harassing his opponents.