GM loses on time after draw offer?

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Buzz_Saw

Sergei Kudrin lost to AKSHITA GORTI over the weekend in Stamford at the tournament.  Kudrin thought he was on his 41st move, but instead was on the 40th.  Gorti called the TD, and then when it was found he had lost on time, she offered him a draw anyway.  TD Immelt denied the draw.  Was he wrong??

Martin_Stahl

Once it was determined that a loss on time occurred the game is over and the result stands. If the opponent didn't want the time claim then the TD shouldn't have been called over. 

Buzz_Saw

Some TDs would allow the potentially winning player to convert the game to a draw if that was her desire.  A request for verification of the move total or a possible time forfeit does not take the game result completely out of the hands of the players.  An erroneous move calculation does not give the TD the full and irrevocable right to have power over the game result.

Scottrf

I think he's right. If not by the rules then morally.

Offering a draw after the flag had fallen is trying to change the correct result.

Buzz_Saw

Only legalistically as the moral thing to do is often to permit all human factors to be considered.  Ultimately a game result is in the hands of the players unless they have violated more serious rules through illegal disturbances, etc..

Scottrf

When you let the players control the result over the officials it reduced the legitimacy. Player power comes into it.

If you time out you lose unless your opponent can't possibly mate. It's a central principle of timed chess.

Candidate35

Good call TD. Great display of generosity by Gorti. Unfortunate for Kudrin but hard lessons happen.

dpnorman

No Akshita Gorti is 12 I think. She plays in a lot of tournaments in my area (DC/Baltimore), so I'm vaguely familiar with her since she's played against a lot of my friends.