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Ziryab
ThaiViet41 wrote:

 

Most of Levy student are well under 1400 elo I guess ( once again like me). 

 

And yet some of them think that they are experts on how to learn chess. The proof will be in their progress.

ThaiViet41
Ziryab wrote:
ThaiViet41 wrote:

 

Most of Levy student are well under 1400 elo I guess ( once again like me). 

 

And yet some of them think that they are experts on how to learn chess. The proof will be in their progress.

No that's not the impression I get. 

Your progress at chess will be mostly dependent on how many hours you spent practicing learning. Most Levy courses user are just looking at improving their games for recreational use. Not becoming professional. 

If you aim for professional/ tournament clearly you need something more than some 60$ online courses. 

Ziryab
ThaiViet41 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Sorry. I guess you probably know more about teaching and learning than I do. I’ve only been a professional teacher since the 1980s and didn’t start teaching chess until 23 years ago.

Obviously your methods are serving you well.

Yes I have the upper hand here. 

I am new to chess , I discover the game around two years ago, no I did not watch the Queen Gambit, I just bought a puzzle game based on chess for my switch and moved from there 

I am above 40, meaning that I have a full time job and have little time to put into the game and know that will never reach an high level ( unless I become unemployed and decide that the best ways to occupy my time is to work on chess full time, very unlikely )

I am therefore PERFECTLY understanding what kind of course would help me improve on chess. 

And as your are CLEARLY no Levy target audience, I am CLEARLY not your target audience. 

In my demographic/chess player profile. Buying a course like this to improve in one specific opening make sense.  I have limited time and if I wanted to improve learning the basic of a specific opening make sense.  Of course for someone more ambitious ( aiming to make a living of chess ) that's not the best way. 

See this as martial art , the majority of practitioner are not aiming at becoming teacher/doing competition regularly and the best training vary A LOT depending on your profile and target use for the skill. 

On a side note, you must know if you are a teacher that those online course are VERY cheap compare to paying for actual in person course, going to a school ect 

 

Okay.

I've only taught about 1000 players new to the game over the past 23 years. What would I know?

ThaiViet41
Ziryab wrote:
 

 

Okay.

I've only taught about 1000 players new to the game over the past 23 years. What would I know?

Ha an argument of authority, here is another one. 

Levy is an IM, a chess teacher, the creator of online courses. His students seems happy with him as are other GM speaking about him.  What would he knows? 

ThaiViet41

An none authority argument. 

I am perfectly happy learning/playing chess for fun . I bought several course, some on opening, some on strategy and so far I am happy to have spend my money and time this ways. 
Did I choose the best possible way to improve my chess? Statistically improbable but I was never that serious about chess in the first place. 

Be serious the population of chess player using 10 to 60$ online courses is not the same as the one paying for a chess teacher/chess school. 

And the one willing to go that far probably have bought A LOT of online courses like those one already. 

Ziryab
ThaiViet41 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
 

 

Okay.

I've only taught about 1000 players new to the game over the past 23 years. What would I know?

Ha an argument of authority, here is another one. 

Levy is an IM, a chess teacher, the creator of online courses. His students seems happy with him as are other GM speaking about him.  What would he knows? 

 

He obviously knows what he is doing. I think there are other teachers who are much better. He seems more interested in building an audience than learning to teach effectively.

ThaiViet41
Ziryab wrote:

 

He obviously knows what he is doing. I think there are other teachers who are much better. He seems more interested in building an audience than learning to teach effectively.

Yes but you have two issue there. 

1 Of course you have teacher that are better, that simple statistic. But if you go down this alley you can criticize 95 to 99.9% of the teacher who are clearly not the best. 

2 What metric are you going to use to measure the performance of said chess teacher? Elo progress of the student, satisfaction rate, other ?  Depending of the metric use the results will vary a lot. 

Wins

Chessly courses or any courses would help but personally I like learning openings through the master's database and the analysis board.

oPAWNo

If your to stupid to find a free resource, I doubt any amount of money will help you improve.

ThaiViet41
oPAWNo wrote:

If your to stupid to find a free resource, I doubt any amount of money will help you improve.

I bought some very good course on the internet, I also found free resources. 
Chess GM, IM need to make a living and buying app/courses you support professional chess player AND get very good tool for learning. 

Plus if you buy something you are more likely to use it then a free resources (humain behavior bias )

oPAWNo

Was how to login to chess.com the course your purchased?

oPAWNo

Would love you to recommend the courses you've bought :)

ThaiViet41
oPAWNo wrote:

Would love you to recommend the courses you've bought :)

Yes of course 

I bought 

Chessable : 

- Wesley So course on  on Fisher Random

- The art of exchanging pieces 

- The art of multipurpose moves

Other course that I  would not recommend because I discover that they were not for me (like building a repertoire )

Udemy : 

Several course by Mykhaylo Oleksiyenko and Tryfon Gavriel

App: 

I took the life time subscription for the Chessking app VERY good value for the money. By far the best puzzles and thematic training exercise. 

Software 

Fritz chess 17

Chess base + mega database with annotation

Those are not all the course, app , software that I bought but the one I would recommend. 

oPAWNo

@gothamchess for just $9.99 per month on a 24month lock in contract. I'll teach you how to log into chess.com. no additional fees. TOS: additional fees may apply

oPAWNo

Wow serious? Opawno course. What's a chess board.pdf only $99.99 on Amazon now. Look me up ;)

oPAWNo

dfgh123

Too expensive, there is a cost of living crisis, gotta feel for the parents getting pestered by their kids for an e-course and why are all the courses the same price, it's like he's spent 3 seconds thinking about the pricing and gone "lol 64"

ThaiViet41
dfgh123 wrote:

Too expensive, there is a cost of living crisis, gotta feel for the parents getting pestered by their kids for an e-course and why are all the courses the same price, it's like he's spent 3 seconds thinking about the pricing and gone "lol 64"

Related to : 

- the cost of maintaining the website/application 

- Time needed for developing said course 

- Price of the competitor 

If you look around you will see that most of the price are similar. 

And too expensive related to what ? If you do any courses that's usually several hours of content. If you want to join a chess school  or take a chess mentor that's why why more costly. 

One lesson can cost you more than one course easy. 

On a side note if you get pestered by your kid for buying an e-course chess you are very lucky.   Usually it is more ' new iphone, video streaming, fashion cloth or just money "

Ziryab
ThaiViet41 wrote:

I took the life time subscription for the Chessking app VERY good value for the money. By far the best puzzles and thematic training exercise. 

 

On this we agree.

One of the very best books that I can recommend to chess players at all levels is Victor Henkin, 1000 Checkmate Combinations. The entire book is contained within this ChessKing app:

ThaiViet41
Ziryab wrote:

 

On this we agree.

One of the very best books that I can recommend to chess players at all levels is Victor Henkin, 1000 Checkmate Combinations. The entire book is contained within this ChessKing app:

 

Ho yes the apps are great

CT ART  I bought that one before taking the life subscription, so I have it also with the peschka software :-) . The company is moving away from the desktop software so to add new course (from the subscription you have to ask them directly), I was not happy about it, but after one year of use, I have to admit that I am not using Peshka anymore, mostly the app and the browser.