Has Chess.com ever had a worse idea than Vacations?

Tournaments take a long time to complete, vacation or no.  As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I am currently in the third round of a no vacation tournament with a 7 day per move time limit (i.e. only a little more than double the 3 days per move spoken of above).  The tournament started in June 2011 and the third round just started in February.  I expect that the fourth round will not start until this summer or fall, and the tournament will end in the fall or winter.  Cut that in half to account for the shift from 7 days to 3, and you are still looking at a greater than 1 year commitment if you join even a small tournament.  Given that, I can't see the difference vacation makes.  

Ok let me try to clear this up.

This is chess.com and some people take it the extremes like the abuse of vacation. And i think.... i think the reason for the No Vacation Tournament was started to stop the abuse of Vacation. If they said we can have Vacation tournament or No Vacation tournament the abusers would continue. It might have been the only method to crack  down on the abuse of it.

@Genghiskhant  I  do not  know your activities here and not going to pretend. Playing in just a tournament is easy you would have to agree. Hold on. But add in playing things like Team Matches, Vote Chess and other tournaments and Open Seeks across a period of time can take its toll. For some it takes longer than others. I know.......   Prepare for it may be your response. That is hard but possible but then you focus of your playing time will be that tournament.

Take 4 groups with x amount players in a Thematic Tournament and a Vacation abuser in a different group in your tournament. So you finish up and the other groups waiting for that group to finish due to a player abusing the tournament option. 

Now most likely time will go by and you almost  forget about that tournament. In which case if may not feel as fun to play as when you started. Or maybe you want to add 5-10 games to play but if you do so problems as in the next round you have 8+ games to play. 8+5 = 13 which may take you out your comfort zone. Have to think ahead now as you might be planning to do something in the next couple weeks and not have to focus on so many games. Ok if your playing ok but sure you not going to get to next round NO PROBLEM. But if you see a real chance to do only worse than 2nd place your patience will come into play.

Have to think that your opponent may get a book or etc and improve. During this break they have more than enough time to look over other players games and learn their tendency or find out what the other players are doing to win and try it. In my experience i found this popular. Which makes it easier(not proving point) for them but also eaiser to counter. Here is one. The sandbaggers whom rank is low enough to enter the tournament and they lower it just to enter the tournament are the toughtest out in the tournaments. I ran into a guy 3 times in tournament and we split. If not for that vacation abuser i think things would be different.  Ahhhhhh

No what this is not like me at all. Sounds like i am making excuses not to win. Got into this bad habit as i never did this much in the past.

i'd rather wait for halley's comet

Play SVC at chess.com and you can keep up.

No, take it from me, this sounds very much like you. If posts didn't have names, I could tell which ones were yours - the ones where you start making excuses for losing based on opponents being on vacation.

Despite the fact that you, yourself, could be improving in this "long" interval. 

So yes, you sound just like you always sound.

Well i have to say congratulations on your games first.

If you join a group. And from my experience they have tournament for members of that group only. (That is what i allow when we have group tournaments) They last only months maybe just short of a year. No need to make it a No Vacation tournament either as they will get a notice from the Admin if they abuse the tournament option. Plus the whole group will know what type of player that person is in a game. That is just from my experience.

Have to take a note of that. As when i create Team Matches i try to make sure that everybody knows if it is a Chess960 game or Thematic game(if it is complicated). I will just make a big note of it when i create a Tournament.

I'm calling shenanigans on that. As has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt (as judged by the fact I have asked several times and no one has responded to it), a low estimate for a reasonable tournament Round to take is 4 months, and that's assuming all the settings are optimized for a short tournament. That is without factoring in a single Vacation day.

So I would like some proof that you routinely run tournaments that are representative of a normal player base (not "Speed Chess Players of the World Group" tournaments) that only last a couple of months for the whole thing.

Two months into a tournament is about when I am trying to figure out which side of the board to castle on.

This is chess.com which i have to remind you of here. They take things to the extreme here in every category. I have seen the nicest people on this site. When they enter a tournament they become brutal in every way but verbal. No matter how long or how fast they want that first place trophy.

I see an SA of group create their own tournament just to kick everybody .....    Now i not sure about chess morals here with creating the tournament, making the trophy for winners and winning it. But that is the most brutal thing i seen from this player. Nice players just do not cross the person on the chess board.

If your hoping for a Time Out in a tournament on chess.com do not hold your breath. Nobody is giving nobody a free pass to the next round. Hey if they  no chance to  get to the next round they do not want you to advance if they are position to do it.

i think there was a worse idea

Well i am not going to take that as insult as you only know about me what i have been recently pouting out. I will use this as an opportunity to change my mental game to where i did not do this.

Yeah, not sure how short that list is or long.

There is no such thing as abuse of vacation.  We have all agreed to play chess on a site that allows vacation.  There are no rules as to how that vacation is to be used (nor could such rules be policed).  Therefore, I can use mine however I choose, and you are free to do the same.  You cannot criticize me because my choices are different than yours.  Your categorization of my vacation use as abuse is completely subjective, as is mine of yours.  My only point in this thread has been this - deal with it.  I agree there should be a "no vacation" option to seek new games with like-minded opponents, and there are already "no vacation" tournaments.  But if you start a game that allows vacation use, then you are stuck with the deal you made and have no right to complain.

That sux, someone bamboozled the pic posting...that is proposterous

Wrong!

You can use nor can anybody use vacation ANY way they like freely.

One rule by chess.com comes to mind if you repeat using if with mate in 1-2 moves  they will restrict your privilege.

??? Who is "We"  all agreed. The TD has the option to make in a No Vacation Tournament. You have no say in that area unles you ask  them to create one your way and they still have the final say.

This is why i wish the Veteran players on this site step like they did before and grab these issues by the horn and resolve them quickly. I thought when they first did it that we had a dictorship but by your commnet i clearly see why they did it in the past.

Posts like this should end the thread. Regretably, it keeps going on becauase someone always says "you can win by vacation time", or "you can reset your clock for infinite play", or "if he is on vacation he has to sit in an empty room and suck his meal in through a straw" or some such.

Your wrong about the auto vacation.

But if i agree with you can we move on as for a couple of comment you did not bring this up and i clearly said you are not going to agree with me and i am not going to agree with you as i know what i saw. Move on to the real issue with vacation and not your ego.

Yes players have won by using vacation. I am an Admin and have seen this in Team Matches. The players that like to use vacation on my team like that are REMOVED. No questions asked. Not going to be know as a team that wins that way. Wish i knew the player or thread where the player showed how they did it. But that would open a worse back of worms that was just resovled and it took weeks to resolve here.

Ok Ubik42 is right about everything and never wrong.

   Will this now allow you to move on!