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tel220126

no

lam22699
tel220126 wrote:

no

I completely agree

varelse1
royalbishop wrote:

Now i think with Tournaments we have a right to name names of players that slow up the tournament if we include the tournament where it occured at the moment. That way nobody can randomly make false claims due to losing or not making the next round and etc.

Even further their should be a list of these players that do this in tournaments. It should be visible to Tournament Directors or an Icon shows up so the TD can see it. At the same time an auto withdraw before a tournament starts if a frequent user of vacation joins. Also this gives players a chance to ask if a frequent user of vacation has joined without naming names. Then the option to leave the tournament is on the table if the TD does not remove them from it. Problem solved for everybody.

Rewarding a troll by giving him a win in a losing position Is not "problem solved for everybody."

Kinda makes it worse for everybody, because he, and many more, will just do the same thing again.

Principle of Positive Reinforcement.

Allowing 1 day of vacation to constantly reset a players clock is a design flaw on chess.com. It is the responsibility of chess.com to fix it.

Edit: If I come off seeming irritable, it about the topic, not you, Royal Bishop. I have not yet seen you be overly inflamatory on these forums before.

royalbishop
varelse1 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:

Now i think with Tournaments we have a right to name names of players that slow up the tournament if we include the tournament where it occured at the moment. That way nobody can randomly make false claims due to losing or not making the next round and etc.

Even further their should be a list of these players that do this in tournaments. It should be visible to Tournament Directors or an Icon shows up so the TD can see it. At the same time an auto withdraw before a tournament starts if a frequent user of vacation joins. Also this gives players a chance to ask if a frequent user of vacation has joined without naming names. Then the option to leave the tournament is on the table if the TD does not remove them from it. Problem solved for everybody.

Rewarding a troll by giving him a win in a losing position Is not "problem solved for everybody."

Kinda makes it worse for everybody, because he, and many more, will just do the same thing again.

Principle of Positive Reinforcement.

Allowing 1 day of vacation to constantly reset a players clock is a design flaw on chess.com. It is the responsibility of chess.com to fix it.

Edit: If I come off seeming irritable, it about the topic, not you, Royal Bishop. I have not yet seen you be overly inflamatory on these forums before.

Sorry.

Did he win the game or worse did he win the tournament?

varelse1
royalbishop wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:

Now i think with Tournaments we have a right to name names of players that slow up the tournament if we include the tournament where it occured at the moment. That way nobody can randomly make false claims due to losing or not making the next round and etc.

Even further their should be a list of these players that do this in tournaments. It should be visible to Tournament Directors or an Icon shows up so the TD can see it. At the same time an auto withdraw before a tournament starts if a frequent user of vacation joins. Also this gives players a chance to ask if a frequent user of vacation has joined without naming names. Then the option to leave the tournament is on the table if the TD does not remove them from it. Problem solved for everybody.

Rewarding a troll by giving him a win in a losing position Is not "problem solved for everybody."

Kinda makes it worse for everybody, because he, and many more, will just do the same thing again.

Principle of Positive Reinforcement.

Allowing 1 day of vacation to constantly reset a players clock is a design flaw on chess.com. It is the responsibility of chess.com to fix it.

Edit: If I come off seeming irritable, it about the topic, not you, Royal Bishop. I have not yet seen you be overly inflamatory on these forums before.

Sorry.

Did he win the game or worse did he win the tournament?

No, he ran out of vacation days and resigned. Never did make a move.

royalbishop

I had a guy cost me 1 st in a tournament.

 I was Red Hot in that tournament. I just spent a couple months studing and practice before i entered it. The guy was in another group and they stayed quiet about it. When he returned and finished i was lukewarm and little confused how to get back to playing out of my mind. I reviewed my games and felt like something was missing. I still on to cruise to the final round. Where i met up with 2 tough players and it was obvious they did want me to win first place. They played similiar tactics against me which in case i wish i playing them when i was Red Hot. More than likely i would have beat them both. In the final round i was knocked out of first place quickly and had to start working hard for 2nd place. The guy that won first place did not lose a game in that round. I got back some of that great playing just in time to win 2nd place.

No way was i going to do less than 2nd place after weeks of waiting for this guy to come off vacation.

GenghisCant

I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.

If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.

Scottrf
Genghiskhant wrote:

I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.

If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.

That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.

varelse1
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.

If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.

That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.

Happened to my opponent Scott. Repeated times.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

never once making a move.

Until I finally got ticked off, and rage-posted this thread.



 


 

Scottrf

Definitely a bug, and not one I've seen.

MathBandit
varelse1 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.

If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.

That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.

Happened to my opponent Scott. Repeated times.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.

never once making a move.

Until I finally got ticked off, and rage-posted this thread.



 


 

I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.

Finally, your whole premise for this thread is that you can only join 1 tournament at a time and all of this 'vacation abuse' is delaying that tournament unreasonable. I have argued logically that even adding 2-3 months of Vacation time will not significantly increase the round of a tournament, and you did not respond at all to that post. Furthermore, this 'vacation abuse' in particular that you are harping about was not remotely close to delaying the tournament, as there are many games yet to finish in the Round.

GenghisCant

Someone's going to need a fresh lick of paint on his soapbox shortly.

Ubik42
MathBandit wrote:

 


 


 

I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.

Finally, your whole premise for this thread is that you can only join 1 tournament at a time and all of this 'vacation abuse' is delaying that tournament unreasonable. I have argued logically that even adding 2-3 months of Vacation time will not significantly increase the round of a tournament, and you did not respond at all to that post. Furthermore, this 'vacation abuse' in particular that you are harping about was not remotely close to delaying the tournament, as there are many games yet to finish in the Round.

 

Of course that is either a bug, or just pure nonsense. 10 days of vacation time extends the game for exactly 10 days. 

This thread is a farce.

JasonSchlotter
paul1144 wrote:
JasonSchlotter wrote:

paul1144, if you don't want to hear from me, stop tracking this topic.  

But on the topic of your incessant whining, it seems that you enjoy calling other people names (eg. Canadians are biatches (I don't speak ebonics, or whatever the hell language you were using, so forgive the spelling if I got it wrong, I couldn't be bothered to go back and check it)) but you get a tad testy when the same courtesy is applied to you.  

And to remind you where we are in this discussion, I am the one saying play by the rules you agreed to and stop the whining, and you are the whiner, so I have to say, no, I don't see myself in your insipid comment about Canadians.  I was trying to nudge you gently back to topic.

So everyone here that wants a rule change is considered a whiner by you, which is name calling. That was the topic, you moron, and of course, people are playing by the rules as agreed. I never said Canadians are biatches, and I am one, but since you were the one that replied to my general comment, makes you the bitch, and whiner. You spoke about priorites and it's easy to see yours are as insipid as your comments. I am not coming back to this topic which has become boring, but not as boring as you.

1. Get hold of your anger issues.  It will allow you to see clearly. 

2. Re-read your post 141 where you said that all Canadians were biatches.  Whether a general comment or not, the result is the same.

3.  Golf.  Foxtrot.  Yankee.

josephcow55

I am a premium member and I use vacation time rarely. But I always get to chess.com every day.

Ubik42
cookiemonster161140 wrote:
HallOfFamePlayer wrote:

Vacation time is for cowards

Vacation time is for people with a family, with a job, with a LIFE.

Whining about vacation time usage? Obvious Obama voters. No brain. No job. Brand new car and iphone.

I better start whining.

nameno1had
cookiemonster161140 wrote:
HallOfFamePlayer wrote:

Vacation time is for cowards

Vacation time is for people with a family, with a job, with a LIFE.

Whining about vacation time usage? Obvious Obama voters. No brain. No job. Brand new car and iphone.

I don't normally laugh about assuming, judgemental, derrogatory comments, but sometimes I make exceptions...

royalbishop
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.

If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.

That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.

I know what he is talking about and it happens when you have a membership and you are about to TO and auto Vacation kicks in. If you have like 2 hrs left in a 3 day / move it gives  3 days to make a move when you return from (Auto) Vacation and 5 day/move and 7day/move and etc. So they have double the time if they take a vacation. In the above case they just used 1 day of vacation.

royalbishop
Ubik42 wrote:
MathBandit wrote:

 

I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.

 

 

Of course that is either a bug, or just pure nonsense. 10 days of vacation time extends the game for exactly 10 days. 

This thread is a farce.


It is there is way but i will not go into details as...... well the abusers will have a field day with it. In a way it is a bug but i see it as a flaw the programmers did not think of here in this case.

Hey this does not happen (above) in Team Matches.

BosstonW

Honest players, this is a game of trickery. I think vacation time should ever be allowed and continued in length

Everybody is on their own schedule, they should be allowed to play chess alng with their schedule. That's what this online chess is for.