I discovered a chess set in a box yesterday that I forgot I had.
Have we discovered everything there is to discover in chess?
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If you randomly shuffle a deck of 52 cards, it will turn out each time in a totally unique sequence of cards which never had be seen before. So no, as long as Chess exists, there will be always an idea which no one thought of before because the game is simply too vast for that to happen.
tfulk wrote:
I discovered a chess set in a box yesterday that I forgot I had.
Cool
TheBigDecline wrote:
If you randomly shuffle a deck of 52 cards, it will turn out each time in a totally unique sequence of cards which never had be seen before. So no, as long as Chess exists, there will be always an idea which no one thought of before because the game is simply too vast for that to happen.
how can it have each time a unique sequence when the number of cards is not infinite???
Likhit1 wrote:
I was just wondering if we have discovered Chess completely,are there no more ideas left to be found?
Not. Even. Close. Period.
I think the number of possible chess game positions was like 10 to the 120 power or something, i don't believe in the next 100 years will we have technology powerful enough to calculate that much, maybe beyond that, assuming we havent killed ourselves, or our world hasnt killed us.
im bad in math could be a bit higher then i thought
TetsuoShima wrote:
im bad in math could be a bit higher then i thought
I suck at Maths too,Im at a loss when people are discussing it.
pfren wrote:
TetsuoShima wrote:
im bad in math could be a bit higher then i thought
Just open your computer's calculator program, turn it to "scientific", enter 52 and the press the n! key. You will get the result: 8.0658175170943878571660636856404e+67 which should be big enough for you, or anyone else.
most of the kids here don't know what a factorial is though.
he means 52 X 51 X 50 X 49 X..... X 2 X 1, thats how many permutations (i think?) there are.
Well pfren, I would think it would be more than zero, just extremely close to zero at the same time.
obviously not
I know what a factorial is!
Duh, people are still trying new openings!
Mar 13, 2013
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That's why they invented chess960.
There, we will be put right back in the day of Grecco and Lopez, inventing theory straight from scratch!
Randomemory wrote:
I think the number of possible chess game positions was like 10 to the 120 power or something, i don't believe in the next 100 years will we have technology powerful enough to calculate that much, maybe beyond that, assuming we havent killed ourselves, or our world hasnt killed us.
I think you underestimate the potential in quantum computing.
The rest will be just more of the same, probably
iplay_chess wrote:
Randomemory wrote:
I think the number of possible chess game positions was like 10 to the 120 power or something, i don't believe in the next 100 years will we have technology powerful enough to calculate that much, maybe beyond that, assuming we havent killed ourselves, or our world hasnt killed us.
I think you underestimate the potential in quantum computing.
Mankind has not been able to fully utilitize this type of processing though UNFORTUNATELY. Rather, not effeciently yet. We are simply in our infant stages with this I think.
Mar 13, 2013
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Elubas wrote:
Well pfren, I would think it would be more than zero, just extremely close to zero at the same time.
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THe correct mathematical expression here is asympotically close to zero. Or in concrete terms, 1/X where X approaches infinity to produce an infintesimally small number.
Mar 13, 2013
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Chess will in my opinion be solved by 2100 with a mixture of quantum and biocomputers with human AI.
I mean, in 1900 draughts looked unsolvable as well.
linuxblue1 wrote:
Elubas wrote:
Well pfren, I would think it would be more than zero, just extremely close to zero at the same time.
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THe correct mathematical expression here is asympotically close to zero. Or in concrete terms, 1/X where X approaches infinity to produce an infintesimally small number.
its just like the gravitational interaction between any two "bodies", 1/r^2, theres always gravity with another object, no matter how far away.
I was just wondering if we have discovered Chess completely,are there no more ideas left to be found?