HEY NOOBS! Forget Openings, Study Tactics (The right way)

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Colby-Covington
AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

You can get to the master level without studying openings really at all. 

You posted this in 2018, so you must be at least an FM or IM now?happy.png

sndeww

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chamo2074

Woow yes colby exactly

chamo2074
Cornfed a écrit :

Advice from someone rated....1300 or so...buyer beware.

Higher rated players have claimed that they have never seen 1300's play as much as me, and this isn't chess knowledge this is an obvious answer

chamo2074

Loosing on move 6 isn't the duty of somebody better than me even if they are higher rated

Encephalocele

I think your problem monster_melons is more misunderstanding tactical transition. Every single game I have seen you post where you believe you won or lost in the opening is from a tactic. And then you CLAIM your tactics rating is over 2200. So not saying you're not 2200 puzzle rating here. What I am saying is anyone can get a good tactics rating here if the do certain things and wash rinse repeat. But to transition that to a game could take more skill. From the looks of your last two games you completely miss the simple thing in the first 6 or 7 moves and then when you lose a pawn you automatically assume the game is lost. THAT is your first mistake. Assuming a game between two 1500 players is lost a pawn down. Hate to say it but I have won games a pawn down as high as 2200 as my opponent. And I can potentially find higher. Notice someone with an NM title said focus on tactics. Well that doesn't have to be puzzles. That is merely focusing on which ones you have problems with and assimilating them into your mind. Another thing is how you look at a game. Are these blitz games? Are they rapid? When you play rapid are you blazing through the first 10 moves regardless of your knowledge? All of these things matter. 

 

You do have to take into consideration the fact that you're going to find cheats on every playing site. But of you go through proper channels and hope chess.com catches the right ones you should be fine for the most part. My first suggestion would be to find out why you're dropping pawns. Those two games. Why do you play Tarrasch setups? Have to looked at master games where research pawn structures are played? What's the tactical motif you're missing? If they are blitz games.. Is it possible you need more slower controls to work out the tactics before returning to blitz?

 

Instead of blaming a segment of the game try more looking at your understanding of the game first. 

Monster_Melons

It's not just a pawn. The loss is greater than what you see immediately (-3 to -5). In addition comes a position which is not playable, but very easy for the opponent.

Not even world champions manage to calculate the right moves in the opening. Don't even think about it. Even if you could, it would take way too much time, and you would lose because of that in a blitz game. My opponents obviously know which moves to make in the opening.

sndeww

then study some opening theory, easy.

Monster_Melons

SNUDOO, How do you study opening theory? By reading books? Memorizing moves given by the computer? And when you use the term "opening theory", do you mean lines of moves so that you know each half move?

Encephalocele

;-) I once made a video about one of the biggest reasons people do not get better is never listening to people higher rated that gives advice. There is actually a lot of decent advice on here and if you blind yourself thinking you already have it figured out then you can't blame the game nor the advice. Some of my biggest jumps was related to listening to a higher rated player even if I was 1500 and they were 1900.

 

But I will tell you now.. There is a huge difference between Magnus Carlsen missing something in the opening and you missing something tactically.

 

Beyond that I don't care anymore. Have fun.

Monster_Melons

I listen to all advices given here. That should be very obvious. By the way, Encephalocele, how did you know that the opening was called Tarrasch?

sndeww
Monster_Melons wrote:

SNUDOO, How do you study opening theory? By reading books? Memorizing moves given by the computer? And when you use the term "opening theory", do you mean lines of moves so that you know each half move?

Memorizing moves and WHY they're played... you can't just play moves. (books). Studying common middlegames, and how masters play them. common pawn structures, and how to play them.

Encephalocele

It's the pawn structure. When I was about 1600 uscf someone said I should learn openings by pawn structure. So a lot of my "opening exploration" is through that method. I learned an easy opening and focused on that. If I remember correctly my opening video of choice back then was "opening for the tournament player" vol 5 in Roman lab. And then as black I had a small class on Sicilian and I looked at some games on the Robatch pawn structure. Robatch basically encompasses all openings that have d6 and g6 against 1. d4. 

Monster_Melons

Memorizing opening moves and why they are played is the main reason why I climbed from 1300 to 1700.  I must admit that I'm tired of memorizing opening moves. Chess requires too much knowledge.

sndeww

I play stuff I know how to play, less theory and more chess, where experience is key.

Vienna Gambit and Bird's for white, Alekhine's and Budapest for black.

pfren

This has been said thousands of times, but anyway:

Openings is the very last thing a new player should care about.

Monster_Melons
pfren wrote:

This has been said thousands of times, but anyway:

Openings is the very last thing a new player should care about.

Agree. At the end of the day, you need to study openings. I believe you have done that well.

pfren
Monster_Melons έγραψε:
pfren wrote:

This has been said thousands of times, but anyway:

Openings is the very last thing a new player should care about.

Agree. At the end of the day, you need to study openings. I believe you have done that well.

 

It does not matter at all if you agree or not, since you are not playing chess- just bullet and blitz.

MFNDevil666
AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

@ilovesmetuna Yes!  They don't do enough tactics puzzles!  I have gone from complete beginner 800 level player to over 1800 in under 5 years!  I attribute most of it to staying hungry and TACTICS PUZZLES!

i have gone from 800 rating to 2300 in 4 years

sndeww
Limitless_Mind35 wrote:
AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

@ilovesmetuna Yes!  They don't do enough tactics puzzles!  I have gone from complete beginner 800 level player to over 1800 in under 5 years!  I attribute most of it to staying hungry and TACTICS PUZZLES!

i have gone from 800 rating to 2300 in 4 years

are we bragging now? can i join?