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cajuncharlie

went on down to the local chess club and got a skittles game off a seasoned member there.

 while playing he went to move a bishope, but instead of putting it on a square, he was just holding it and contiuned thinking.

 i said friend, i  dont like that, put the piece down, he stated, i touched it,i plan on moving it.

whats the rule on this?

EscherehcsE

Estragon's right, you could make a claim in a tournament game. Would I? Probably not. His clock is burning time while he holds the piece, I have no problem visualizing where the piece was, so it doesn't matter to me. I wouldn't say anything, but then I'm probably more laid back than most competitive players.

Skittles? The rules are much more relaxed in skittles games. Maybe the social norms vary from club to club, but it's not unusual for me to see people violate touch move in skittles games. Nine times out of ten, nobody says anything. (I never violate touch move, even in a skittles game. It's a bad habit to get into, but I see it done now and then.) In a skittles game, I wouldn't call a guy a jerk for holding onto a piece. 

ClavierCavalier

You think that's bad?  I played a guy who would pick up several pieces during a turn, or he'd drag them across the board and then move them back.  He'd even move my piece as if he was going to capture it, but then set it back down.  I got pretty annoyed with this.  

My old philosophy was thus:  If it's against a player who actually knows the castling rules and en passant, I'm much stricter.  Against someone who has a very loose grasp of the rules, like this person, I'm more flexible.  If it was at a chess club instead of Sonic, I wouldn't have stood for it.  Needless to say, I have changed my outlook on touch move since then.  Now I'm going to insist on following this pretty strictly, and will only be flexible if it's a beautiful woman I happen to be intimate with.

Dodger111

It's a skittles game so tourny rules don't count it's just bad manners, like moving a piece all over the board to see how it fits.

hftc

Once upon a time a guy played 2 pawns at the same time,one square each.

Didn't said a word.

Then i played my knights to f6 and c6.

He jumped like an F16 pilot in emergency situation.  Cool

Dodger111
hftc wrote:

Once upon a time a guy played 2 pawns at the same time,one square each.

Didn't said a word.

Then i played my knights to f6 and c6.

He jumped like an F16 pilot in emergency situation.  

Yeah it's called "Korkser chess" in some places, antiquated regional rules or children's  rules which have survived to adulthood, lot of odd ideas, too numerous to mention. The idea that each side can make two opening moves is the most common.

cajuncharlie
Estragon wrote     But you can just not play the jerk again.


i think this is what i am going to do.  if he asks me for a game, i will just say i didnt like his chess etiquette. he also made grunting sounds and got up out of his chair hard making it slide a foot or so back.   piss poor example for a chess player, if you ask me

EscherehcsE
cajuncharlie wrote:
Estragon wrote     But you can just not play the jerk again.


i think this is what i am going to do.  if he asks me for a game, i will just say i didnt like his chess etiquette. he also made grunting sounds and got up out of his chair hard making it slide a foot or so back.   piss poor example for a chess player, if you ask me

Gee, what ever happened to using a little tact? I guess you just like to burn bridges right off the bat? You never know, the guy might be a great guy and maybe just has a slightly gruff exterior. Maybe he just had a bad day. If he's stronger than you, he might be a great source of knowledge to you in the future.

Really, just holding onto a piece in a skittles game is no big deal at all. And based on your demand that he put the piece down, have you given any thought to the possibility that you just might have torqued HIM off? (I wasn't there. It all may depend on how you worded the demand/request and your tone of voice.)

 I guess you're a big boy, you can do what you want. But based on reading this thread, I'm not entirely sure just who the jerk is. If you end up making enemies of all the chess club members, I guess you can always walk across the street to the other chess club. Wink

P.S. Please take this advice in the spirit it was intended. I'm not trying to anger you; I'm just trying to get your attention. Smile

cajuncharlie

i am the friendlest chess player i know,  not that smart, but i enjoy the game for sure.

it had been apx 10 years since i went to the club, the only club in town. they mostly always play rated games, this is the reason i quit going. 

 i was wanting to pick up some skittles games . and to me...its always touch move, i stated that before we played.

 but if chess has come to this sort of odd behavior, the chess world def took a turn for the worse. i see that here on this site also. not speaking of you sir, just saying.

EscherehcsE

It may be that clubs are just getting a bit more casual. In my club, if you want to play skittles with someone, you'll probably have to put up with a little friendly trash talk about half of the time. I HATE trash talk. Utterly despise it. But that's getting to be the norm now, so I live with it as the price I might have to pay for a game of skittles.

When you boil it all down, skittles are just friendly games, having a good time. So you overlook a little trash talk, a little piece holding, and even an occasional touch move violation.

 Don't forget, rated games are great, but there's not always time for post-mortem analysis between rounds in a tournament. Skittles games can be great for picking the brains of the stronger players. (Just pick and choose the appropriate times for picking their brains. Don't do it so much that they start to feel like it's a job for them.)

I'd recommend that you try to lighten up a bit and give the guy a little room. A little give, a little take, that's what makes the world go 'round. Smile 

cajuncharlie

yes sir...i like your style