Another messy game
How bad were the old "GM's" really
The GM's of 100 years ago would be at best 1700-1800 players today ?
That is monumental conceit to the point of retardation.

The GM's of 100 years ago would be at best 1700-1800 players today ?
That is monumental conceit to the point of retardation.
'They were not bad for their day but looking at some of their games I believe they are not much stronger than about 1800-1900 max today.'
I said 1800-1900, you got my statement wrong which is why it offended you, but please check before launching into attacks , the mistake is yours. Remember be civil and nice.
The GM's of 100 years ago would be at best 1700-1800 players today ?
That is monumental conceit to the point of retardation.
'They were not bad for their day but looking at some of their games I believe they are not much stronger than about 1800-1900 max today.'
I said 1800-1900, you got my statement wrong which is why it offended you, but please check before launching into attacks , the mistake is yours. Remember be civil and nice.
You are quibbling, 100 points is not that big a difference, and at any rate on your very next post you said you may have been optimistic about them even being 1800-1900.
I'm stunned that anyone would make such a claim, it's ridiculous. .

The GM's of 100 years ago would be at best 1700-1800 players today ?
That is monumental conceit to the point of retardation.
'They were not bad for their day but looking at some of their games I believe they are not much stronger than about 1800-1900 max today.'
I said 1800-1900, you got my statement wrong which is why it offended you, but please check before launching into attacks , the mistake is yours. Remember be civil and nice.
You are quibbling, 100 points is not that big a difference, and at any rate on your very next post you said you may have been optimistic about them even being 1800-1900.
I'm stunned that anyone would make such a claim, it's ridiculous. .
Well ,you are welcome on my thread and you are welcome to disagree and free to share your opinion but is it really neccassery to being insulting and hostile in the process?
I love how when you are trying to belittle the old masters you use the Immortal Game to back up your arguement.
Also, if they are rated 1800-1900 then how would you, a 1400 "definitely" be a title contender anyway? Atleast have a consistent arguement...

I love how when you are trying to belittle the old masters you use the Immortal Game to back up your arguement.
Also, if they are rated 1800-1900 then how would you, a 1400 "definitely" be a title contender anyway? Atleast have a consistent arguement...
Hey I have just started on cc , I would love to start at 2000+ but I have to work my way up man , I have only played one game!! For Pete's sake do some better research.
I have clearly shown in the games provided they were patzers whereas you have no evidence that they were great.
I am not trying to belittle them i am just saying they would not be rated as GM's today.
I love how when you are trying to belittle the old masters you use the Immortal Game to back up your arguement.
Also, if they are rated 1800-1900 then how would you, a 1400 "definitely" be a title contender anyway? Atleast have a consistent arguement...
Hey I have just started on cc , I would love to start at 2000+ but I have to work my way up man , I have only played one game!! For Pete's sake do some better research.
I have clearly shown in the games provided they were patzers whereas you have no evidence that they were great.
I am not trying to belittle them i am just saying they would not be rated as GM's today.
Patzers?
Words fail me.
Check Marshall's "shower of gold" move and tell me he was a patzer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitsky_versus_Marshall

Good god !!! I see what you are saying I have never seen a move like that!!
Not exactly awesome but even if it was then there is still such a thing as the law of avareges ,even a broken clock is correct twice a day....

Put Steinitz, or Morphy or any of the great 19th century players in a Simul against 50 clones of the premium duck, and the grandmaster will score between 95 and 100%
aha! so only 97.5 % then! so much for being a gm

But its not easy to put 50 GreedyDucks in the same room without triggering the wankometer's emergency alarm.

But its not easy to put 50 GreedyDucks in the same room without triggering the wankometer's emergency alarm.
Again with the greedy thing, I have openly admitted to being the late solastalgia in a higher more pure form ,who is greedy?

From your picture, it's clear that you wouldn't be grandmaster material even in the 13th century
Don't hold back man, just attack me and be insulting, heck I don't mind being nice and helpful while taking a broadside from every cow-poke that feels like hurling some mud in my direction.

Lighten up man! You're the guy who posted the gif. I assume it was to inspire some humorous comment.
Sorry man, I think I have just become overly sensative to insult or even implied insult as I have taken so much verbal abuse since joining this site.

Sorry man, I think I have just become overly sensative to insult or even implied insult as I have taken so much verbal abuse[while being a complete angel] since joining this site.
You forgot that part, P-duck
Here is Game #2 from the Steintz-Lasker match in 1894. Steinitz played a near-flawless game. 1800 or 1900 level players don't frequently play this well:
Steinitz: 0 inaccuracies, 0 mistakes, 0 blunders, 11 average centipawn loss
Lasker: 4 inaccuracies, 2 mistakes, 0 blunders, 26 average centipwn loss