How can a 12 yr old be a GM while an mature adult cannot even reach 1600

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RealBentley5

Mature? A mature adult wouldn’t care about this.

BurnedMeat

hes just pro

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@HongDaHee
Who are you in real chess life since you are rated 2600 in blitz. Are you a GM. What is your real name?
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Reason I asked is because I have played chess active for over 35 years. And You know Why, Why I am curious about Why that many anonymous players either have a skyrocket rating or just race up and down several hundreds rating points at a time. You know Why. And I Also see abnormally many players paused for several months befor they play again. When old people like me and OP come here for playing a game of gentleman sport, then we observe soooo many absurdities. Chess is not like it was back in 1970-1980. Today its a video game. And the game sites policies for xxxx xxxx and for xxx xxxx. You know what im talking about.
mpaetz
Going4Draw wrote:
I'm an experience adult, faught for my country. I have been all over the world. Successful family man, career, and business man. Made life altering decisions. An important part of the community... so Why am I so dumb at chess that I can only hold up to 1500+ while a barely pubelescent teen who does not even know how to cook rice be GM?

The belief that chess is an intellectual exercise that any reasonably smart person, endowed with the qualities need to achieve the things you have mentioned, can master is a myth. In reality, there ARE congenital traits (visualization and visual memory among others) that define the top level to which players can aspire. Playing for some years at the Berkeley, CA chess club I witnessed mathematics professors with stellar reputations in their field spend years bringing their kids to the club, and taking up the game themselves, fail to get out of Class B (1600-1800 elo). It's not just intellect and study that makes a GM.

paper_llama
26DWeber wrote:

who here wants to have sex with me?

Literally no one.

ThatJoshGuy7

hi

sb3turbo

You are comparing 'Experience of Life' vs. 'Chess Knowledge'.

Human brain learns way too faster between 0 - 14 years. Like 10x than normal adults. With a simple math;

- A kid starts chess at 5, learns for 7 years

- that 12yrs old kid learned 7x10=70 years worth of chess knowledge.

+ you on the otherhand started chess at 20

+ you have been playing ever since and you are 50 now (30 years of chess knowledge)

70 > 30.. Kid wins, you lose.

Going4Draw

I don't believe in quitting. If I can just reach expert I can die happy. If kids can learn it there's no way an adult can't. Maybe just learn it from a different perspective thats all. To those who wants to dish insults I bet youre easy pickens for me

PawnTsunami
Going4Draw wrote:
I'm an experience adult, faught for my country. I have been all over the world. Successful family man, career, and business man. Made life altering decisions. An important part of the community... so Why am I so dumb at chess that I can only hold up to 1500+ while a barely pubelescent teen who does not even know how to cook rice be GM?

The answer is pretty simple: a good portion of Chess is pattern recognition. You must spend a good amount of time digesting patterns to improve. Kids have 3 primary things going for them over adults: 1) their brains are like sponges - they pick up new things constantly, 2) they do not have bad habits they have to unlearn - they have no habits, so they just need to lean the good ones, and 3) they have a lot of leisure time!

An adult, with a family, job/school, etc does not have nearly the amount of free time to spend on Chess than an average 8-year-old has (especially since many schools are no longer giving homework!). So, while you may be struggling to put in 10 hours per week, they are capable of putting in 16-24 hours in 2 days.

There is one other benefit kids have over adults: number of games. There are far more scholastic games than normal rated games, so they have a lot more chances to increase their rating. When they can play in every event you play in plus 3-4 more each month, you see them quickly improve.

SerynasGambit
RedFastMath wrote:

I am 12 and 1300+ blitz 1500+ rapid 1700- bullet. I also teach and lead chess club at my school!

slay

DonThe2nd

1600 seems to be a place where a lot of players get stuck. I can't explain why, but I belonged to an OTB chess club for several years and it was always the same - some bright fresh talent would come along, quickly rocket from 400 to 1000, and then 1000 to 1600. As soon as they reach 1600 it's like they hit a wall, and these are smart and talented players. It must take a little something extra beyond mere studying and perseverance to get to the higher levels of chess (Class A, expert, master et cetera)

pcwildman

I want to see the monkey play some Chess. Better yet, I want to see the monkey play the elephant, and then they can compete on who's a better artist with watercolors. It's ArtChess, brought to you by those wonderful people at Mutual of Omaha. Today we're going to be pitting the python against the lion.

Going4Draw

I'll start a new thread to help old buggers like me improve.

Anonymous27165
Your mind may just not be wired for chess
VenemousViper

Well, some people have more talent than others in specific things.