Lord_Hammer wrote:
You cannot force a mate with two knights but a mate is possible. These are help mates. But chess.com doesn’t factor in helpmates, so if you have 2 knights, it will be a draw.
Good simple answer!
How can I mate with two knights and my king?
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Chessflyfisher wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
You cannot force a mate with two knights but a mate is possible. These are help mates. But chess.com doesn’t factor in helpmates, so if you have 2 knights, it will be a draw.
Good simple answer!
Yes nice job Lord hammer that was a good answer.
1e41-0 wrote:
Even forcing the white king to the vicinity of e0 from an unfavorable starting position would take about 40 moves.
Where is E0????
Nov 28, 2019
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Chessflyfisher wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
You cannot force a mate with two knights but a mate is possible. These are help mates. But chess.com doesn’t factor in helpmates, so if you have 2 knights, it will be a draw.
Good simple answer!
But, unfortunately, not to the question.
Nov 28, 2019
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QuantumYankee wrote:
1e41-0 wrote:
Even forcing the white king to the vicinity of e0 from an unfavorable starting position would take about 40 moves.
Where is E0????
If you look at OP's post #3, he's drawn it for you.
In this position, it's white's turn.
White moves his knight on c4 to b6, giving checkmate. The king is in check, and he can't move to b8 because of white's knight on c6, and he can't move to a7 or b7 because of white's king, so it's checkmate.
Nov 28, 2019
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LopsidedLamp wrote:
In this position, it's white's turn.
White moves his knight on c4 to b6, giving checkmate. The king is in check, and he can't move to b8 because of white's knight on c6, and he can't move to a7 or b7 because of white's king, so it's checkmate.
This is true. In fact OP's statement, "It is known that an extra piece is required to be able to mate Black" (referring to a standard board) is strictly false because of such positions. It should read, "It is known that an extra piece is required for White to force mate". Conventionally (and probably not particularly helpfully) a sequence of moves leading to mate is regarded as forced only if it consists of more than one ply.
Dec 1, 2019
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1e41-0 wrote:
Even forcing the white king to the vicinity of e0 from an unfavorable starting position would take about 40 moves.
But wouldn't that be just taking the horses to water? Can you think of a KNNK position that is mate in more than 4?
And, of course, some positions are too unfavourable. The white king cannot be forced within three moves of e0 here, whoever has the move.
You cannot force a mate with two knights but a mate is possible. These are help mates. But chess.com doesn’t factor in helpmates, so if you have 2 knights, it will be a draw.
A bit inaccurate even if you omit OP's e0 square.
In the position shown here White has 2 knights but it's neither a draw nor a helpmate.
and this is a helpmate which chess.com appears to "factor in" (if that means awarding the point).
In both final positions White has two knights but it's not a draw. And neither is this
not to mention this
That position is impossible though, think about it, before this position, on black's move, what could he have played? Nothing.
Look again. They're all legal.