How can I play Chess again?

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miskit_mistake
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

Like how can people here in good faith defend the father? seriously, not only was the punishment and the crime absurd, but the "rule" itself is also completely vague.  "son ,get off chess" in the context of a single game in a place does not translate to "never play chess again". Idk in what universe that makes any sense. Ok, maybe "you are grounded for a week" implies chess specifically and the OP didnt mention this, but the punishment for the crime, is so hilariously absurd, i cant take it seriously even then.

You can comply to these ridiculous rule if you think it will best serve your purpose. Or you can go behind their backs. Just weigh the pros and cons . If you are as serious about chess as you claim to be, you know what you need to do.

This is merely one side of the story. A 12 year old's. One who thinks his life and career is chess.

In his eyes his parents and perhaps even life may be unreasonable.  While we hear what he says, we also have to temper it with the necessary context.

darkunorthodox88
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
miskit_mistake wrote:
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
*Snip*

Yes he should continue to pursue his passion, so what if he is low rated? Are you saying the only people allowed to continue their hobbies are prodigies? The kid has a hobby, he likes chess, it's a healthy activity why shouldn't he keep playing? I don't understand why you're bringing up prodigies into the discussion

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-can-i-play-chess-again?page=1#comment-69226633

He's considering it as his career and his life. Not just a hobby. I think that makes a huge difference, no?

Yes and? He's 12, kids dream. I used to dream of being a pro athlete when I was a kid, obviously it never happened but I don't regret playing sports as a child. It gave me a hobby, it kept me in physical shape, I made a lot of friends etc. As I got older I realized my dreams of being a pro athlete were unrealistic and I moved on with life but I am glad I still played anyways. So why is chess any different?

Karjakhin was a GM at 12. In this area "kids" are professionals. 

darkunorthodox88
miskit_mistake wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

Like how can people here in good faith defend the father? seriously, not only was the punishment and the crime absurd, but the "rule" itself is also completely vague.  "son ,get off chess" in the context of a single game in a place does not translate to "never play chess again". Idk in what universe that makes any sense. Ok, maybe "you are grounded for a week" implies chess specifically and the OP didnt mention this, but the punishment for the crime, is so hilariously absurd, i cant take it seriously even then.

You can comply to these ridiculous rule if you think it will best serve your purpose. Or you can go behind their backs. Just weigh the pros and cons . If you are as serious about chess as you claim to be, you know what you need to do.

This is merely one side of the story. A 12 year old's. One who thinks his life and career is chess.

In his eyes his parents and perhaps even life may be unreasonable.  While we hear what he says, we also have to temper it with the necessary context.

His side of the story is all we have. Any judgement extending beyond that is dependent on this. If what is reported is accurate, its ridiculous. 

miskit_mistake

So I played a game of chess somewhere in the public while sitting down, and my parents were busy doing something. My dad came over to me and said, "Son, get off Chess." and I replied with "Ok".

This is the story we are going with. And nothing happened before this to trigger this kind of reaction from the dad. Yeah, this dad has issues.

But is that really the case? In most stories I've heard there's a lot more history. However in this case, that might just be all.

llama51
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
miskit_mistake wrote:
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
*Snip*

Yes he should continue to pursue his passion, so what if he is low rated? Are you saying the only people allowed to continue their hobbies are prodigies? The kid has a hobby, he likes chess, it's a healthy activity why shouldn't he keep playing? I don't understand why you're bringing up prodigies into the discussion

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-can-i-play-chess-again?page=1#comment-69226633

He's considering it as his career and his life. Not just a hobby. I think that makes a huge difference, no?

Yes and? He's 12, kids dream. I used to dream of being a pro athlete when I was a kid, obviously it never happened but I don't regret playing sports as a child. It gave me a hobby, it kept me in physical shape, I made a lot of friends etc. As I got older I realized my dreams of being a pro athlete were unrealistic and I moved on with life but I am glad I still played anyways. So why is chess any different?

Karjakhin was a GM at 12. In this area "kids" are professionals. 

Karjkain was a professional. Kids are just kids.

And speaking of kids, sounds like you didn't get enough hugs as one, sheesh.

miskit_mistake
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

*Snip*

His side of the story is all we have. Any judgement extending beyond that is dependent on this. If what is reported is accurate, its ridiculous. 

Agreed. In my limited experience with kids (and many adults), however, it's almost never accurate and more investigation is warranted.  There is of course the other side to this where child abuse goes ignored.

miskit_mistake
Jebkoiseternal wrote:

YOu should not let them do that, whip them with telephone cable show them you are the boss, YOU ARE THE KING of that HOUSE NOW i JEBKO DECLARE IT , GO NOW take your telephone calbe and whip them 

And this is a kid with no parenting.

llama51

Hey, the kid gave you a thumbs down.

Same as that chemist-physician, remember?

Probably means this kid has a genius level intellect.

miskit_mistake
llama51 wrote:

Hey, the kid gave you a thumbs down.

Same as that chemist-physician, remember?

Probably means this kid has a genius level intellect.

I'm shattered

Ilampozhil25

"get off chess" isn't "stop playing chess forever"

which means he grounded you for a rule which never even existed

which means it's his fault(kinda) you played chess in the bathroom

and it's not your fault that you can't play chess at all anymore

but taking it as a potential job is ridiculous, you probably had to be at least IM by this age to have any chance

so yes, this makes no sense

but also, how you're responding makes no sense as it's not a big deal

llama51
miskit_mistake wrote:
llama51 wrote:

Hey, the kid gave you a thumbs down.

Same as that chemist-physician, remember?

Probably means this kid has a genius level intellect.

I'm shattered

 

Meanwhile the OP is singing

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ChesswithGautham

Jebko is back again. *sigh*

ChesswithGautham
llama51 wrote:
miskit_mistake wrote:
llama51 wrote:

Hey, the kid gave you a thumbs down.

Same as that chemist-physician, remember?

Probably means this kid has a genius level intellect.

I'm shattered

 

Meanwhile the OP is singing

-

 


lol

InsertInterestingNameHere

I mean 

>dad gives son order

>son says “okay”

>son proceeds to disobey said order, even after saying “okay”

I agree the dad was harsh by grounding him for one whole week instead of just taking his phone away for that moment or smth and I can’t really defend him there, but it’s his child.

darkunorthodox88
llama51 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
miskit_mistake wrote:
RespektMyAuthoritah wrote:
*Snip*

Yes he should continue to pursue his passion, so what if he is low rated? Are you saying the only people allowed to continue their hobbies are prodigies? The kid has a hobby, he likes chess, it's a healthy activity why shouldn't he keep playing? I don't understand why you're bringing up prodigies into the discussion

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-can-i-play-chess-again?page=1#comment-69226633

He's considering it as his career and his life. Not just a hobby. I think that makes a huge difference, no?

Yes and? He's 12, kids dream. I used to dream of being a pro athlete when I was a kid, obviously it never happened but I don't regret playing sports as a child. It gave me a hobby, it kept me in physical shape, I made a lot of friends etc. As I got older I realized my dreams of being a pro athlete were unrealistic and I moved on with life but I am glad I still played anyways. So why is chess any different?

Karjakhin was a GM at 12. In this area "kids" are professionals. 

Karjkain was a professional. Kids are just kids.

And speaking of kids, sounds like you didn't get enough hugs as one, sheesh.

Lol what makes you say that?

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ChessSBM

I can’t believe this story. I had the same problem, but I think I understand what your parents trying to say. They don’t really want you to stop playing chess completely. They just want you to not play it a lot. 1 hour a day might be okay for them. This is my opinion though. Check again whether they want you to stop playing chess, or they want you to play it less. I mean everyone knows chess is good. 

darkunorthodox88
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

I mean 

>dad gives son order

>son says “okay”

>son proceeds to disobey said order, even after saying “okay”

I agree the dad was harsh by grounding him for one whole week instead of just taking his phone away for that moment or smth and I can’t really defend him there, but it’s his child.

property rights is whats at stake here right?

InsertInterestingNameHere

I don’t really believe the dad took chess away from him forever tbh. So many times, my parents have been like “say goodbye to your [videogame I’m using]!” But they really just want to seem strict so you take them seriously, and I get it back after I start behaving. And this was when I was like 12 too lmao.

ChessSBM
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

I don’t really believe the dad took chess away from him forever tbh. So many times, my parents have been like “say goodbye to your [videogame I’m using]!” But they really just want to seem strict so you take them seriously, and I get it back after I start behaving. And this was when I was like 12 too lmao.

When I don’t listen more than like 5 times, he takes it away in my case

chessterchief

ok, everyone is just talking about whether what the kid did is right or not, or how unfair the dad is (I'm guessing this thread is a mix of kids and parents) from what the kid said there wasn't enough to go on for the dad, but he should have said something like "dad, can I finish this game first?", but that is not the question. the question is, how can he get his parents to let him play chess again?