They are forced into playing it and practicing for hours and hours each day. Really sad if you think about it.
How did chess prodigies like Abhimanyu Mishra train to become GMs?
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Gambit_Man wrote:
I didn't know his dad spent so much money on the little brat.
What makes him a brat?
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Niska1 wrote:
BestSell wrote:
Niska1 wrote:
I don’t think Mishra would have even been an FM without all this training and money being spent by his father.
Very few (if any) people in the world can reach FM without training and resources.
See my earlier post: even Magnus Carlsen was a struggling amateur, until he received master-level coaching.
It says on your profile you don’t believe in natural talent. Then how did Nihal Sarin solve these endgame puzzles blindfolded at only the age of 11?
And Magnus Carlsen explaining how his mind works
”I don’t have to figure it out. I don’t have to sit there and calculate to know the right move.”
”Usually I can just feel it immediately”
How is this not natural talent? Who can train so hard to develop such an intuition? And he once said he could remember 10,000 games in his head!
It takes experience. He trained hard and studied a lot. He has a very good memory and recall. Yes, there can be talent involved, but talent alone isn't enough to reach the highest levels without training.
Do you know what kind of training though? Are we talking about training with coaches full time only or both coaching and self training? And what kind of training resources? That’s what the title of my post meant
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Imagine thinking someone is bad because they lost to the greatest chess player of all time
Jul 16, 2021
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Niska1 wrote:
It says on your profile you don’t believe in natural talent. Then how did Nihal Sarin solve these endgame puzzles blindfolded at only the age of 11?
And Magnus Carlsen explaining how his mind works
”I don’t have to figure it out. I don’t have to sit there and calculate to know the right move.”
”Usually I can just feel it immediately”
How is this not natural talent? Who can train so hard to develop such an intuition? And he once said he could remember 10,000 games in his head!
"Talent" and intuition come from practice, study, and repetition.
Both Nihal and Carlsen began their chess pursuits at a young age. And both players were (like all beginning players are) relatively poor at the game.
But they persisted, and passionately kept at it, to the point of obsession. Sarin began working with a chess instructor when he was 6 years old. By the time he was 7, he was aggressively studying Alekhine's games on a daily basis. (You can read about his chess journey online, in various places.)
That's a ton of effort and immersion in the game, along with adult guidance and instruction, that began at a very a young age, when neuroplasticity is at its peak.
That's where their extraordinary chess talent comes from -- from all the rigor, coaching, and passionate obsession for the game, starting from childhood.
See also: Laszlo Polgar, and his results with his daughters.
Jul 16, 2021
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rychessmaster1 wrote:
Imagine thinking someone is bad because they lost to the greatest chess player of all time
A Jobava fan? 
I thought Mishra put up a good fight in their first game. He actually looked to have Jobova on his heels at one point, with that kingside pawnstorm.
But the rest of the game was all Jobava, picking the position apart . . .
Jul 16, 2021
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It's kinda sad what happened to Abhimanyu. Apparently when he was 5 his dad forced him to play 6 hours of chess a day.
CastawayWill wrote:
It's kinda sad what happened to Abhimanyu. Apparently when he was 5 his dad forced him to play 6 hours of chess a day.
Yeah and nobody is even talking about that
BestSell wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
Imagine thinking someone is bad because they lost to the greatest chess player of all time
A Jobova fan?
I thought Mishra put up a good fight in their first game. He actually looked to have Jobova on his heels at one point, with that kingside pawnstorm.
But the rest of the game was all Jobova, picking the position apart . . .
Jobova? You mean Jobava? I like Jobava, his play style is unique to me
rychessmaster1 wrote:
Imagine thinking someone is bad because they lost to the greatest chess player of all time
Jobava is the greatest chess player of all time? What?
Jul 16, 2021
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Niska1 wrote:
Jobova? You mean Jobava? I like Jobava, his play style is unique to me
I meant Jobava, yes. And yes, he's quite a dynamic player.
Jul 16, 2021
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I remember reading something that Krammnik studied 12 hours a day. Except for breathing, and my heart pumping. I cant imaging spending 12 hours a day on anything.
Jul 16, 2021
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Niska1 wrote:
Do you know what kind of training though? Are we talking about training with coaches full time only or both coaching and self training? And what kind of training resources? That’s what the title of my post meant
I don't know the specifics but probably all of those 
There are way too many overbearing parents at tournaments these days pushing their kids into chess thinking that they will be the next Magnus. It's depressing to see and puts unreasonable hardship on children who are mentally developing. I have seen so many kids crying after a bad loss because they have been taught to be super competitive and are under so much pressure to perform, and on top of all that they lack the emotional maturity to handle setbacks.
I don’t think Mishra would have even been an FM without all this training and money being spent by his father.
Very few (if any) people in the world can reach FM without training and resources.
See my earlier post: even Magnus Carlsen was a struggling amateur, until he received master-level coaching.
It says on your profile you don’t believe in natural talent. Then how did Nihal Sarin solve these endgame puzzles blindfolded at only the age of 11?
And Magnus Carlsen explaining how his mind works
”I don’t have to figure it out. I don’t have to sit there and calculate to know the right move.”
”Usually I can just feel it immediately”
How is this not natural talent? Who can train so hard to develop such an intuition? And he once said he could remember 10,000 games in his head!
It takes experience. He trained hard and studied a lot. He has a very good memory and recall. Yes, there can be talent involved, but talent alone isn't enough to reach the highest levels without training.