How difficult is it for a non-title player to beat a title player in chess
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Sep 22, 2023
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#3
Having a chess title doesn't give you magical powers; you can use an elo calculator to estimate the win percentage of any two players playing against another just on their ratings alone; granted, this is only an estimate, but it is better than nothing.
With that being said, titled chess players are very strong and won't be easy to win against.
Sep 22, 2023
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I’ve got like 700 wins against them. I find them weaker because they’re usually on the decline
Except that #7 is a master level player that just hasn't got his title.
It's very much achievable if you have three things. Money, time and dedication.
In my opinion, I advice for you to focus on your own performance first. I started playing chess again early this year and managed to slowly improve my game from training, lessons and doing puzzles. I just reached 1900+ and got my first win against a titled player WFM few days ago.
The secret is to just improve your game gradually, don't think much about titled players. As long you focus on your game, it will gradually come.
Sep 22, 2023
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Prince_Prince_Prince2023 wrote:
Do you think you can achieve a title in the future?
No.
Sep 22, 2023
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Optimissed wrote:
It isn't difficult at all if you're about the same strength but don't happen to have a title.
I'm just lazy to go to any chess tournaments.
Sep 22, 2023
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#12
Optimissed wrote:
GabGarbage wrote:
Prince_Prince_Prince2023 wrote:
Do you think you can achieve a title in the future?
No.
Me neither. If I'd taken up chess at the age of 8, I would have got a title. I did actually take it up at 8 but I wasn't interested in it. I joined a chess club and started leaning openings aged 36. If I hadn't also started a degree at almost the same time I still wouldn't have got a title, except of course CM, which doesn't mean much.
A title is still a title. You can probably flex around with it.
Sep 22, 2023
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#13
Optimissed wrote:
I suppose so but before 36 I was more interested in running after women than much else. 36 was when I was first with my present partner and we had a child when I was that age. I took up chess to help keep me in one place, because previously I was doing a lot of travelling. My wife is totally unimpressed by chess, so flexing there is impossible. I didn't have any girlfriends that were chess players but one played RISK!, which I liked a lot at the time. I liked the girl too.
Congrats.
Sep 22, 2023
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#14
I have beaten titled players in blitz, and lot of unrated. Does a player play stronger chess if their is rating points on the line?. I wonder if that is the reason sometimes for my wins... like on the unrated twitch stream tournaments?
Sep 22, 2023
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Amie_Michelle wrote:
I have beaten titled players in blitz, and lot of unrated. Does a player play stronger chess if their is rating points on the line?. I wonder if that is the reason sometimes for my wins... like on the unrated twitch stream tournaments?
No. You just try harder when you play against a higher rated player or a better player.
Sep 22, 2023
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#16
Or maybe they got arrogant and lost or just distracted. There are multiple factors to that.
Sep 22, 2023
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#17
I lost to my 1100 elo girlfriend in bullet. It's also a sign of me being bad at chess.
Sep 22, 2023
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#18
I drew a 2700 on Lichess in something called a simo. I won against two titled player the other day in 3/0.. The reason in the 3/0 games was that both players were streamers and talking at the same time. I know in January when i start streaming I will lose a lot at first
Sep 22, 2023
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Prince_Prince_Prince2023 wrote:
Do you think you can achieve a title in the future?
No
Sep 22, 2023
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Amie_Michelle wrote:
I have beaten titled players in blitz, and lot of unrated. Does a player play stronger chess if their is rating points on the line?. I wonder if that is the reason sometimes for my wins... like on the unrated twitch stream tournaments?
Sometimes people try harder in rated, but that isn't even that main issue here; part of the reason streamers lose more often is that streaming is difficult! I didn't realize this until I tried streaming chess on Twitch (I don't stream anymore because I'm mostly making chess YouTube videos instead) and some chess friends of mine started streaming, but streaming makes you play several hundred points lower in ability until you practice streaming a lot.
I think more relevant than trying in rated vs unrated is that when a titled player streams a game, they have to focus on the game, offer commentary for the game, monitor the chat, make sure the stream quality is good (audio, video, etc.) and more distractions. When they play a rated game off-stream, then they can just focus on the game and not have as many inherent distractions.
Do you think you can achieve a title in the future?