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chesser351 wrote:
sorry for qh2
long_quach wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
llama44 wrote:
That guy ( @ long_quach) lag behind > 20 years current technology.
In 20 years ago, Alpha Beta pruning were not introduced in engines.
Alpha Beta pruning, as I imagine, was invented on pencil and paper, long before an electronic calculator was invented, let alone a computer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha%E2%80%93beta_pruning#History
The world's first scientific calculator was in 1972.
Stop googling what I said about Alpha Beta, I bet you will never heard about it until a few hours ago before my post.
It take several years for chess programmers to
" apply in engines ".
I am not 100% sure when was the first engine that has Alpha Beta pruning, but I think it was in " crafty by Robert Hyatt(aka bob). I think "Johan de Koning had not introduce AB pruning in chessmaster 6000 ".
May 15, 2020
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long_quach wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
I am not 100% sure when was the first engine that has Alpha Beta pruning, but I think it was in " crafty by Robert Hyatt(aka bob). I think "Johan de Koning had not introduce AB pruning in chessmaster 6000 ".
Forensics Linguistics.
The word "engine" is a recent word, giving away your youth and lack of historical understanding.
Older people us the word "program".
Young people think everything was invented yesterday.
I'm 63 and I call them engines.
May 15, 2020
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#27
long_quach wrote:
llama44 wrote:
I bet that was pretty cool in the 80's, to have it spit out some cookie cutter phrases like "knights are good on outposts" or "you weakened your king" but since no one ever mentions chessmaster6000 as a good source of explaining moves I doubt it's very effective.
That's not a cultural phenomenon, that's a technological phenomenon, at least 50%.
After Windows XP, all programs (not just chess) are no longer backward compatible with new Windows Operating Systems. That's half of Chessmaster's death.
The other half is that the Chessmaster's series went out of business. Which I don't know why. Part of it is bad programming (but that can be fixed). Part of the bad programming is to have the program randomly makes mistakes to "scale down" its level.
That's another mystery, why the Chessmaster's line died.
That's a tangential subject, but whatever.
I'm actually old enough to have had a chessmaster program. It was one after 6000 IIRC, and from what I remember the "advice" was about that canned i.e. "knights are good on outposts" and "you weakened e3"
Sounds nice, but of course the justification was always brute force engine lines. A far cry from the sort of insights a human master could give you.
May 15, 2020
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#29
long_quach wrote:
I passed The Turing Test.
You know, some people I tease for their inability to claim this much. Honestly.
But I never really felt that about you.;
And to brag about it is somehow more pathetic than eliciting the taunt from me in the first place: "I doubt you'd pass a Turing test."
But hey, I guess you gotta hang you hat on something right?
May 16, 2020
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#30
long_quach wrote:
Chess was invented way back when in India when they were fighting with elephants.
Fighting with elephants is discouraged now by the World Wildlife Fund.
Spoilsports!
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