how do I arrange to play chess games against prison inmates?

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Maradonna
ilikeflags wrote:

i escaped from a mexican prison in the late 90s.  i was sentenced to life...  for a murder i didn't commit. 


 ...are you part of the A-Team?

ilikeflags

b-team.  i didn't quite make the cut.

orangehonda
ilikeflags wrote:

b-team.  i didn't quite make the cut.


lol

ilikeflags

si

CoachConradAllison
Elubas wrote:
 But our justice system is about as just as it can get.

 I completley agree, noone sent to guantanomo and held indefinitely was innocent.

Writch

Chessy4000 makes a good point.

But guilt or innocence aside, its just too bad Gitmo is closing. I bet there'd be some bad-ass chess players in that joint.

Perhaps you should get your Security Clearance update and passport in order, Eo____ - sounds like its worth a trip to beautiful, tropical Cuba!

(P.S. better get there before the oil does!)

RebelRook
goldendog wrote:

Felonies would be a sound stratagem.


 LOL right! Rob a bank...Problem solved!

theoreticalboy

The problem with playing Gitmo inmates is that you can't realistically do anything beyond blindfold matches.  And I don't think there are any FIDE regulations on playing with high-pitched noises constantly sounding during the matches, or having to keep your body in a stress position, or have drowning simulated as you calculate whether a bishop sacrifice will result in appropriate gains.

Writch
theoreticalboy wrote:

...whether a bishop sacrifice will result in appropriate gains.


Dick Cheney has already stated that the sacrifice resulted in gains. (read as "the ends justified the means").

Hmmmm.... Now there's an interesting OTB opponent!

Hey, Eo______, how do you feel about playing with Dick?

ivandh
Writch wrote:

But guilt or innocence aside, its just too bad Gitmo is closing. I bet there'd be some bad-ass chess players in that joint.


They're probably excellent at blindfold chess.

theoreticalboy
Writch wrote:
theoreticalboy wrote:

...whether a bishop sacrifice will result in appropriate gains.


Dick Cheney has already stated that the sacrifice resulted in gains. (read as "the ends justified the means").

Hmmmm.... Now there's an interesting OTB opponent!

Hey, Eo______, how do you feel about playing with Dick?


Haha, right, forgive me for forgetting everything Cheney said in the last decade or so.

kissinger

You could visit a state or Federal prison nearby and bring your chess set at every visit.  Just thinking outloud....Really good question....

bigpoison
ilikeflags wrote:

we should all tell about our time in prison.  i escaped from a mexican prison in the late 90s.  i was sentenced to life...  for a murder i didn't commit.  while there, i was the leader of one the most motorious and powerful prison gangs in all the land.  my nickname was "el guapo."  i look back on my time there with mixed feelings.  i never played chess once in prison.

glad i got that off my chest.


11/29

I was arrested for murder and I ain't harmed a man

I was arrested for forgery and can't even sign my name

Eo____
orangehonda wrote:

 

Also related is this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9uJFl_vglk


Yes, I think that's where I got the idea from. Good find.

 

By the way, those Princeton kids sure look stupid, don't they? I mean, they even dare play chess with violent thugs and con men!

ivandh

Yeah, everybody knows that if you help a criminal in jail they will stalk and kill you. And thanks to the chess.com map, they can find where you are!

AMcHarg

I find it very sad that a joke is being made of Guantanamo.  The American constitution and justice system is supposed to be based on a fair trial and sentence, but apparently that’s only for certain criminals.  If your justice system is not confident that it can handle any criminal then you don’t circumvent it; you change it.  It simply goes to show that America is not nearly as confident in it’s justice system as many on here might like to believe.


I also think that the ‘them and us’ attitude that many people show towards prisoners is counterproductive.  One inmate is not simply the same as any other; they are all separate people with separate crimes and should be treated in a humane way.  The Bible teaches forgiveness and as a Christian nation you must surely appreciate that when a person commits a murder in a drunken rage at 18-years-old, they can still become a different person after 30 years on death row.  Where is your humanity America?

orangehonda
Eo____ wrote:
orangehonda wrote:

 

Also related is this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9uJFl_vglk


Yes, I think that's where I got the idea from. Good find.

 

By the way, those Princeton kids sure look stupid, don't they? I mean, they even dare play chess with violent thugs and con men!


I know, especially that geo-sciences kid was a bit goofy hehe :)  Then they ask the inmates what they're in for... "Murder" , "aggravated assault... and various other charges" , "two counts of first degree murder" etc.  That girl especially was a bit brave I think, she thought she was just like any other person and gender didn't matter but for some of those guys it's been a decade since they've seen a woman...

MyCowsCanFly

Those GPS ankle tracking devices would be more effective if they were rigged with explosives. Obviously, you only get to violate the perimeter a couple of times.

By the way, it only took a few seconds on Google to locate an organization that matches people with inmates for correspondence chess. If you are serious, you may have already contacted them.

orangehonda
AMcHarg wrote:

I find it very sad that a joke is being made of Guantanamo.  The American constitution and justice system is supposed to be based on a fair trial and sentence, but apparently that’s only for certain criminals.  If your justice system is not confident that it can handle any criminal then you don’t circumvent it; you change it.  It simply goes to show that America is not nearly as confident in it’s justice system as many on here might like to believe.


I also think that the ‘them and us’ attitude that many people show towards prisoners is counterproductive.  One inmate is not simply the same as any other; they are all separate people with separate crimes and should be treated in a humane way.  The Bible teaches forgiveness and as a Christian nation you must surely appreciate that when a person commits a murder in a drunken rage at 18-years-old, they can still become a different person after 30 years on death row.  Where is your humanity America?


No system is perfect... not that pointing out deficiencies is always bad.

Complicated issues are somewhat like a tough chess game.  You can't generalize things even for a bit, and you can't assume things will be one way or another.  Of course some drunken 18 year olds reform while on the other hand some 15 year old murderers are sociopaths.  Some sociopaths can fit into society, some can't. etc etc.  Because real issues are so tough, often even people with genuine knowledge on the subject are forced to over generalize which makes for a boring read.

The circumstances revolving around the prisoners at Guantanamo bay would have to be evaluated on a case by case basis.  America as a Christian nation is another generalization that doesn't have much to do with anything.  Calling on the humanity of America is another.  That's why arguments like these can't get far in forum format because one side generalizes what's convenient for their point of view while the other side does the same.  To do otherwise means setting out to write a book.  Otherwise the best response is none at all.

Unless of course you want to plug your personal point of view or advertise your religious or political affiliation, which when you remove the fluff I think is what most of these posts boil down to.  In my case, I find both boring and not much worth reading.

bigpoison
AMcHarg wrote:

I find it very sad that a joke is being made of Guantanamo.  The American constitution and justice system is supposed to be based on a fair trial and sentence, but apparently that’s only for certain criminals.  If your justice system is not confident that it can handle any criminal then you don’t circumvent it; you change it.  It simply goes to show that America is not nearly as confident in it’s justice system as many on here might like to believe.


I also think that the ‘them and us’ attitude that many people show towards prisoners is counterproductive.  One inmate is not simply the same as any other; they are all separate people with separate crimes and should be treated in a humane way.  The Bible teaches forgiveness and as a Christian nation you must surely appreciate that when a person commits a murder in a drunken rage at 18-years-old, they can still become a different person after 30 years on death row.  Where is your humanity America?


The U.S. is not a "Christian Nation".  It is a secular nation founded on a bastardization--more poetic and ethereal--of Locke's rights of man.

You have always impressed me sir, so please don't take this amiss.