How do I study like Fischer?

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Prometheus_Fuschs
saiea escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
blueemu escribió:

Fischer was certainly not an all-around genius.

He was a genius at chess. Period.

In other respects... politics, interpersonal relations, science and math, art, history and sociology, religion... he was utterly naive. Read some accounts written by people who knew him for decades, such as GMs Larry Evans or Olafssen.

Her mom did say he had an "astronomically high IQ", IMO he was an ignorant on those topics because of his lack of education, IIRC he did not finish highschool.

High school teaches nothing IMO. I learn more from a book than high school lol

Although I do not like the way highschool teaches (I'm just about to graduate), it's better than nothing and it most likely will give you the most basic knowledge in a variety of subjects which you might otherwise overlook. Also, he did not study at university either, his focus on chess was just too much.

 

PS: That depends on the book and how well you understand it, some are terrible at self-teaching.

autobunny
IMBacon wrote:
saiea wrote:

as the title suggests I am looking for ways to study like Fischer?

I tried bending it like Beckham and ended up in traction...

Warming up is important.   But should be all good, since in the end you hook up with a vampire and your teammate becomes a pirate. 

Prometheus_Fuschs
ghost_of_pushwood escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

IMO he was ignorant on those topics because of his lack of education

 

Oh Ghost, if only you actually knew me.

SN80

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Prometheus_Fuschs
ghost_of_pushwood escribió:

I know you are fairly wealthy and live near former Aztecs.

Hey, you are getting closer tongue.png

Ziryab
Learn Russian. Read the best magazines with the latest games. Look for holes in published analysis.
llamonade
RedGirlZ wrote:

I'm confused. Why do you want to study Chess like Fischer? You're not gonna understand the same amount as he did, or take in content. ur learning style is also probably different. 

I was told the story of a kid who went from something like 1400 to 2200 in a little over a year.

His parents bought him 50 chess books. The kid read all of them, cover to cover. When he was done, he read them all again, cover to cover. All this in a little over a year.

My reply was that technique would not work for me, because I wouldn't be able to retain even half of the information.

The person cracked a wry smile and said "Who said the kid retained it all? In any case you'd be a lot better than you are now"

So yeah, studying like Fischer (obsessively to the point of madness) wont make you world champion... but it'd make a person a hell of a lot better than they are today.

IMKeto
saiea wrote:

as the title suggests I am looking for ways to study like Fischer?

Develop mental illnesses like paranoia, hearing things, and not seeing things as they really are.

Then accuse everyone of being against you (paranoid)

Learn a language and read all their publications.

Distrust everyone (paranoid)

Buy expensive suits to make up for your feelings of inadequacies.

Demand perfection.

Go into seclusion, and pretend you're still the champion.

Join a cult, and give your money away.

Attack the country you were born in and supported you.

Die lonely, broke, and nuts.

saiea
llamonade wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:

I'm confused. Why do you want to study Chess like Fischer? You're not gonna understand the same amount as he did, or take in content. ur learning style is also probably different. 

I was told the story of a kid who went from something like 1400 to 2200 in a little over a year.

His parents bought him 50 chess books. The kid read all of them, cover to cover. When he was done, he read them all again, cover to cover. All this in a little over a year.

My reply was that technique would not work for me, because I wouldn't be able to retain even half of the information.

The person cracked a wry smile and said "Who said the kid retained it all? In any case you'd be a lot better than you are now"

So yeah, studying like Fischer (obsessively to the point of madness) wont make you world champion... but it'd make a person a hell of a lot better than they are today.

What were there 50 books??

llamonade

I don't know. I doubt the person could have told me even if I'd asked because this person wasn't the parent of the kid.

saiea

well. even if it's true. what books they were probably had a lot to do with the improvement ;-;

llamonade

Probably a lot less than you'd expect. It's more about the motivation.

Break it down, and the kid was reading something like 50-80 pages a day, every day, for more than a year.

Books weren't the rarefied ingredient, the obsession was.

You can want to get better all day long, but without the passion to carry you through the day to day work, you're not going to get very far. And passion isn't something you can have just by wishing you had it, you're either born with it or you aren't. Passion is one of the most important and rarest talents.

saiea

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

llamonade

And as others have pointed out... we should probably be thankful for that. Fischer's life makes him a very exciting person to read about, but living that life, being the man himself, would be to live in misery.

llamonade
saiea wrote:

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

Yeah, he went to tournaments every week.

saiea
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

Yeah, he went to tournaments every week.

So basically. He stayed awake all night daily. reading chess books. then went to tournaments. read  more books. go to sleep. stay awake all night. this must been his routine.

llamonade
saiea wrote:
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

Yeah, he went to tournaments every week.

So basically. He stayed awake all night daily. reading chess books. then went to tournaments. read  more books. go to sleep. stay awake all night. this must been his routine.

A day is 24 hours.

Sleep is about 8 hours.
School when you're a kid is about 8 hours.
Since your parents cook, clean, pay for, and transport you, you have about 8 hours of free time per day as a kid.

saiea
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

Yeah, he went to tournaments every week.

So basically. He stayed awake all night daily. reading chess books. then went to tournaments. read  more books. go to sleep. stay awake all night. this must been his routine.

A day is 24 hours.

Sleep is about 8 hours.
School when you're a kid is about 8 hours.
Since your parents cook, clean, pay for, and transport you, you have about 8 hours of free time per day as a kid.

What if he didn't go to school?

llamonade
saiea wrote:
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:
llamonade wrote:
saiea wrote:

But if he didn't play games during that time how'd he apply it? books are useless if you don't apply it.

Yeah, he went to tournaments every week.

So basically. He stayed awake all night daily. reading chess books. then went to tournaments. read  more books. go to sleep. stay awake all night. this must been his routine.

A day is 24 hours.

Sleep is about 8 hours.
School when you're a kid is about 8 hours.
Since your parents cook, clean, pay for, and transport you, you have about 8 hours of free time per day as a kid.

What if he didn't go to school?

If he didn't go to school, then just like you, he wouldn't be able to do the calculation 24-8=?

So since I feel bad for you, I'll do the calculation, the answer is he'd have 16 hours.

But now my advice to you is to go to school because that's more important than chess.

blueemu
saiea wrote:

What if he didn't go to school?

Or sleep.