How does the elo here compare to FIDE elo? - Chess Forums - Page 2

drmrboss

Apr 2, 2021

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Uaim7313 wrote:

I'm 1750 here, does that equate to my FIDE elo?

You are 68% likely to be 1720 +/-130 FIDE statistically

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

Born2slaYer

Apr 2, 2021

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#22

blueemu wrote:

CongoratsUlost2me wrote:

blueemu wrote:

I was around 2000 OTB (Canadian Chess Federation rating). When I started here on chess.com, I quickly went up to 2000-odd rating and more-or-less stabilized there. Then slow progress to just under 2200, and a quick jump to 2350.

(Then ZOOM up to a super-GM-ish 2750, and immediately back down again. But the less said about that, the better).

Your blitz rating will be around 2500 if you start playing blitz.

I'm in my 60s and nearly blind. I expect my Blitz rating would be 800 or so.

lol

Uaim7313

Apr 3, 2021

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#23

PathOfNerd wrote:

Foolsmateinfinity wrote:

I am not sure...

Appeal to authority : Hikaru said like -400 difference compared chess.com rating to fide... in a recent video he published on youtube

1 data : @danielguel

1904 highscore of rapid currently, 1900s ish || <1900 rapid on chess.com

His recent tournament He said it a bit rockey but USCF 1791 to 1766, I am not sure about time controls; Rapid or Classical I guess

So, his rating is 1766 USCF!! USCF overrated in comparison with FIDE for around 100 points. It means, he is around 1666 FIDE. Pretty reasonable.

And the topic starter with <1800 in rapid dreaming about 1800 FIDE... LOL! At best he could be at 1500 FIDE because on lower levels rapid rating on chess.com more inflated.

the link posted by llama PROVES a rapid chess.com shows a lower rating than FIDE

llama47

Apr 3, 2021

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#24

PathOfNerd wrote:

USCF overrated in comparison with FIDE for around 100 points.

People always say that, but I've never actually seen someone with a gap like that.

Maybe it's true for GMs, but I've never seen it at the lower end.

Although... some places in the US are easier to get rating than others, so maybe it's true for some people.

IM pfren

Apr 3, 2021

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#25

Uaim7313 έγραψε:

PathOfNerd wrote:

Foolsmateinfinity wrote:

I am not sure...

Appeal to authority : Hikaru said like -400 difference compared chess.com rating to fide... in a recent video he published on youtube

1 data : @danielguel

1904 highscore of rapid currently, 1900s ish || <1900 rapid on chess.com

His recent tournament He said it a bit rockey but USCF 1791 to 1766, I am not sure about time controls; Rapid or Classical I guess

So, his rating is 1766 USCF!! USCF overrated in comparison with FIDE for around 100 points. It means, he is around 1666 FIDE. Pretty reasonable.

And the topic starter with <1800 in rapid dreaming about 1800 FIDE... LOL! At best he could be at 1500 FIDE because on lower levels rapid rating on chess.com more inflated.

the link posted by llama PROVES a rapid chess.com shows a lower rating than FIDE

The ratings posted in the link are nonsense.

Actually FIDE does not even try to connect his OTB ratings with the FIDE Arena ones, as this is completely meaningless.

moneywaves

Apr 3, 2021

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#26

pfren wrote:

Different rating systems, different player pools -----> they can't be compared.

This is the only correct answer. Online chess is too different.

llama47

Apr 3, 2021

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moneywaves wrote:

pfren wrote:

Different rating systems, different player pools -----> they can't be compared.

This is the only correct answer. Online chess is too different.

It's not the rating systems that are so different, it's that you can't reliably compare 3 minute blitz to OTB games which last hours. The rating systems are very similar in terms of what the mathematical machinery aims to produce (and does produce). If that were the only issue then getting an accurate conversion formula wouldn't be impossible.

moneywaves

Apr 3, 2021

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#28

llama47 wrote:

moneywaves wrote:

pfren wrote:

Different rating systems, different player pools -----> they can't be compared.

This is the only correct answer. Online chess is too different.

It's not the rating systems that are so different, it's that you can't reliably compare 3 minute blitz to OTB games which last hours. The rating systems are very similar in terms of what the mathematical machinery aims to produce (and does produce). If that were the only issue then getting an accurate conversion formula wouldn't be impossible.

That's pretty much what I meant. There are too many variables for them to be compared accurately, and if the data is not accurate then what's the point of comparing them?

chyss

Apr 3, 2021

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#29

llama47 wrote:

Here is a rough comparison:

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

That looks about right to me. It 'matches my chess.com rating to my FIDE rating correctly.

llama47

Apr 3, 2021

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#30

moneywaves wrote:

llama47 wrote:

moneywaves wrote:

pfren wrote:

Different rating systems, different player pools -----> they can't be compared.

This is the only correct answer. Online chess is too different.

It's not the rating systems that are so different, it's that you can't reliably compare 3 minute blitz to OTB games which last hours. The rating systems are very similar in terms of what the mathematical machinery aims to produce (and does produce). If that were the only issue then getting an accurate conversion formula wouldn't be impossible.

That's pretty much what I meant. There are too many variables for them to be compared accurately, and if the data is not accurate then what's the point of comparing them?

Oh yeah, re-reading it, I guess I'm basically agreeing... and it's definitely true that the players are different... there are essentially zero strong players who play seriously online, and when they do, it's 3 minutes games or faster... blitz and bullet are more like chess variants when compared to tournament length games.

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As for why they're compared, it's because there's obviously a strong positive correlation. If I'm 2500 in blitz chess there's no way I'm 1500 OTB and vice versa. So having a comparison that says +/- 150 is fine... the big issue I have with it right now is that online ratings change. For example not so long ago chess.com boosted everyone's bullet rating overnight. Also people lie all the time. Ideally you'd only poll players who are active both online and OTB, but undoubtedly you're going to get a lot of inactive ratings, and exaggerated ratings.

Made_in_Shoreditch

Apr 3, 2021

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#31

llama47 wrote:

Although... some places in the US are easier to get rating than others...

Powhatan Correctional Center, Virginia (Claude Bloodgood)

llama47

Apr 3, 2021

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#32

PathOfNerd wrote:

chyss wrote:

llama47 wrote:

Here is a rough comparison:

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

That looks about right to me. It 'matches my chess.com rating to my FIDE rating correctly.

It's rather an exception than the rule. One of my friends is 2580 at blitz on chess.com. And he hardly can cross 2000 FIDE in Ukraine.

If he's actively playing both, and if he's maintaining those two ratings (in other words 2580 isn't a peak, it's a rating he can keep after playing many games against many different opponents) then that's hard to believe.

blueemu

Apr 3, 2021

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#33

llama47 wrote:

If I'm 2500 in blitz chess there's no way I'm 1500 OTB and vice versa.

I'm in my 60s and nearly blind. It wouldn't surprise me if my Blitz rating was a thousand points lower than my Daily or OTB ratings.

Uaim7313

Apr 3, 2021

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PathOfNerd wrote:

chyss wrote:

llama47 wrote:

Here is a rough comparison:

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

That looks about right to me. It 'matches my chess.com rating to my FIDE rating correctly.

It's rather an exception than the rule. One of my friends is 2580 at blitz on chess.com. And he hardly can cross 2000 FIDE in Ukraine.

according to the table blitz on chess.com is highly inflated compared to rapid over 1800, rapid is more accurate!

llama47

Apr 3, 2021

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#35

blueemu wrote:

llama47 wrote:

If I'm 2500 in blitz chess there's no way I'm 1500 OTB and vice versa.

I'm in my 60s and nearly blind. It wouldn't surprise me if my Blitz rating was a thousand points lower than my Daily or OTB ratings.

Ok, but making the proviso "for players who are able to play without physical or technological impairment" seems unnecessarily thorough.

Uaim7313

Apr 3, 2021

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#36

PathOfNerd wrote:

Uaim7313 wrote:

PathOfNerd wrote:

chyss wrote:

llama47 wrote:

Here is a rough comparison:

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

That looks about right to me. It 'matches my chess.com rating to my FIDE rating correctly.

It's rather an exception than the rule. One of my friends is 2580 at blitz on chess.com. And he hardly can cross 2000 FIDE in Ukraine.

according to the table blitz on chess.com is highly inflated compared to rapid over 1800, rapid is more accurate!

You're funny! I believe you'll hardly be able to stay at 1800 at blitz...

You just registered this account three days ago and gaining a lot of rating beating 1400 players because your rating is provisional.

play a rapid game against me and we'll see how provisional it is

XOsportyspiceXO

Apr 3, 2021

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#37

So my fide rating would be like 400 then, great ill just fk myself an go play checkers lol