How easy is it to become a GM?

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dpnorman
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enforcer_ch
jengaias wrote:
Master_Po wrote:

You can't become a GM without at least a 130+ IQ.   Never done, never will be.  

What you say has never been proved scientifically or otherwise.

In fact several researches have shown that IQ and chess are unrelated.

Highly intelligent people usually find chess boring.

Even Carlsen said that  high intelligence might actually be a setback for chess.

In fact noone else except chessplayers consider chessplayers intelligent.

That must be why the top chess players all have iq less than 100   -- Carlsen must have an iq of 85 and so does every other gm !

 

Wow   ....snowflakes .....Every one is equally stupid ...genetics determine nothing.... LOL

 

bong711

Its essy to be a GM. Quit business, job, college. Hire a GM coach. If an I M already, 2, 3 years. If just 2000, 5 to 10 years. If U1600, 10 to 20 years. If over 50 year age, try next life.

VladimirHerceg91
bong711 wrote:

Its essy to be a GM. Quit business, job, college. Hire a GM coach. If an I M already, 2, 3 years. If just 2000, 5 to 10 years. If U1600, 10 to 20 years. If over 50 year age, try next life.

There's no need to push your views about the after-life here. This is a chess discussion, not a classical music discussion or religion discussion. Thank you. 

bong711

You got no sense of humor. I mean forget about GM ambition if too old.

VladimirHerceg91
bong711 wrote:

You got no sense of humor. I mean forget about GM ambition if too old.

I do have a sense of humor. But there is a time and place for everything as far as I'm concerned. 

bong711

Except the 1st and last sentence, all are facts. Nobody could reach GM as a hobby or part time activity. If gifted, No coach needed too.

blueemu

Enrico Paoli got the GM title at 88 (and it was NOT by winning the World Senior's Chess Championship).

bong711

Im happy to hear that. Any more name?

LogoCzar

Why would it be impossible?

It just might be harder.

In my opinion, chess is worth playing/studying even if you don't get GM.

What about for the love of the game? Perhaps you might get a lower title one day, and then GM might be in reach! 

"Everything is possible for one who believes." - Jesus

blueemu

Jans Klovans from... Latvia?... earned his GM title at 62 or 63. Jens Kristensen was in his sixties when he won the GM title. He got it for winning the World Seniors, so he didn't have to qualify by norms... but bear in mind that some of the other competitors were Geller, Korchnoi and Smyslov!

bong711

Yes, its possible. But as a hobby or part time activty? Many youth made GM coz thry are neglegting their studies. School teachers are normally cooperstive.

universityofpawns

 The first thing you have to do is stop playing bullet (which is essentially try to win by time) and play longer games where you can actually study and learn something, then go back and play bullet later once you get your rating up if you like

kindaspongey
blueemu wrote:

Enrico Paoli got the GM title at 88 (and it was NOT by winning the World Senior's Chess Championship).

The description that I have seen is that "Fide gave him the title honoris causa in 1996."

blueemu

Yeah, he did not qualify on norms. He had missed a norm by half a point, as I recall.

kindaspongey
blueemu wrote:

... He had missed a norm by half a point, as I recall.

Somewhere around the age of 61, not 88, as I understand it.

madhacker
bong711 wrote:

Its easy to be a GM. Quit business, job, college...

 

...run out of money, house repossessed, live on the streets, starve to death...

Doesn't sound particularly easy to me.

Sceadungen

Nigel Davies said that he got the GM title after living in a caravan (trailer) for ten months with no TV or other distractions just a board and chess books. He was already an IM at that time.

ed1975
Sceadungen wrote:

Nigel Davies said that he got the GM title after living in a caravan for ten months with no TV or other distractions just a board and chess books.

Great if you've got the money and leisure...

GnrfFrtzl
richie_and_oprah wrote:
logozar wrote:

 

"Everything is possible for one who believes." - Jesus

"Jesus never existed."  ~ History.

Actually, Jesus did exist.
Whether you believe the details about his life, that's another question. 

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