who cares let him memorize openings
How high ELO do you honestly believe I can get if I memorize all the openings and basics?
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magipi wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly
Yes, but a 500 rated player doesn't have to to play e4 correctly. Following opening principles, avoiding obvious blunders and punishing obvious blunders - these are more than enough.
Just cause you know the ideas doesn't mean you play it correctly obviously you'll blunder in the opening half the time
magipi wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly
Yes, but a 500 rated player doesn't have to to play e4 correctly. Following opening principles, avoiding obvious blunders and punishing obvious blunders - these are more than enough.
True tho they don't know how to do that correctly which is the problem usually just being stuborn and trying to win without resigning can get you to 600-800 ish after enough games
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
wiredtearow wrote:
Memorizing openings without tactics or skill to back it up is like memorizing prayers/phrases in another language that you don't understand. You may look fancy in the opening but it only takes a little bit of push back to see that your tactics might not be on par to execute it well.
As everyone said, it's better to pick 2 each for white and black play it until you're familiarized, then focus on tactics.
I just played all the e4 openings you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly
This guy is a novice. It doesn't matter what opening he does. This is the elo that doesn't even notice that they're hanging a queen. This elo will unintentionally let you pin and fork them as much as you want. The thing that will move him above 1k elo is tactics, better chess principles, and improved board awareness. Not openings.
Nov 11, 2024
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Memorizing all the openings is a waste of time. Just do puzzles and you will improve . Memorizing openings might get you a few cheap victories with traps, but it won't improve your strength as an overall chess player
wiredtearow wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
wiredtearow wrote:
Memorizing openings without tactics or skill to back it up is like memorizing prayers/phrases in another language that you don't understand. You may look fancy in the opening but it only takes a little bit of push back to see that your tactics might not be on par to execute it well.
As everyone said, it's better to pick 2 each for white and black play it until you're familiarized, then focus on tactics.
I just played all the e4 openings you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly
This guy is a novice. It doesn't matter what opening he does. This is the elo that doesn't even notice that they're hanging a queen. This elo will unintentionally let you pin and fork them as much as you want. The thing that will move him above 1k elo is tactics, better chess principles, and improved board awareness. Not openings.
It doesn't matter but at least it prevents you hanging pieces a little less I also already said you shouldn't memorize a bunch of openings anyway I was actually making a point that you can play whatever just try to play an opening you know the ideas of so you can practice that (or improvise if your opponent hangs a free piece ) knowing how to create ideas is also part of board awareness and knowing plans
memory is half the battle if a elo 200 makes up an opening you are kinda screwed
if i didn't get into losing positions out of the opening and punished my opponent's bad openings my rating would probably jump 300 points easily
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:
if i didn't get into losing positions out of the opening and punished my opponent's bad openings my rating would probably jump 300 points easily
Excuses we all saw how hikaru could get to 2500 without a queen
Nov 11, 2024
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jeremywhitaker wrote:
As title says, I plan to memorize ALL the openings, do all the lessons I can get my hands on, and then perhaps do some puzzles afterwards to get back into the groove.
Im currently 680 elo right now, how much elo do you think I'll gain after I do this? I plan to spend at least 200 hours studying before I start playing again. So far I am about 100 hours in.
I spend about 5-10 hours a day studying, just to give you an idea of my dedication.
Learn a few openings well that you intend to play. No sense of being a 'jack of all trades, master of none'.
For me, my quickest gain of ELO came when I studied endgames.
Good luck to you.
BlueHen86 wrote:
jeremywhitaker wrote:
As title says, I plan to memorize ALL the openings, do all the lessons I can get my hands on, and then perhaps do some puzzles afterwards to get back into the groove.
Im currently 680 elo right now, how much elo do you think I'll gain after I do this? I plan to spend at least 200 hours studying before I start playing again. So far I am about 100 hours in.
I spend about 5-10 hours a day studying, just to give you an idea of my dedication.
Learn a few openings well that you intend to play. No sense of being a 'jack of all trades, master of none'.
For me, my quickest gain of ELO came when I studied endgames.
Good luck to you.
Jack of all trades while being better in some openings is good if you have a certain playing style (ex being able to win consistently down a piece ) if your good at swindling it's surprisingly useful
you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly
Yes, but a 500 rated player doesn't have to to play e4 correctly. Following opening principles, avoiding obvious blunders and punishing obvious blunders - these are more than enough.