Scottrf wrote:
Presumably the authors/publishers allow it because they think it would lead to increased sales. I wouldn't read part of a novel.
I only ever read the ending. The rest is just filler.
How is Google Books legal?
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Well, it's on Wikipedia as well, which means that by the time I access the article, someone may have subtly changed the content to say the exact opposite of what it should say.
I know for a fact this happens on Wikipedia all the time. All you need to do is cite fake sources or obscure print-only sources and the intentionally incorrect data will remain in the article for years, as Wikipedia editors are too lazy and stupid to verify information with anything but "google".
Great discussion so far. It even features the Atomic Knight. Here's a fun xkcd diversion: https://xkcd.com/978/
("Citogenesis").
johnmusacha wrote:
as Wikipedia editors are too lazy and stupid to verify information with anything but "google".
That's a bit harsh.
Wikipedia has millions of articles. And, it does say that the site is user driven, not site owner driven. Basically this means they are not responsible for the content.
Besides, it's free.
johnmusacha wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:
Can someone please shed some light on this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Book_Search_Settlement_Agreement
Thank you very much for finding that, sir. Would you mind summarising the contents of that article for me? Thanks.
You can google an entire book, because your friend said you could. But you couldn't google "google books copyright infringment". So someone googled it for you and posted a link to a very good article on what you wanted to know.
But now you want someone to read the article for you?
And ask them to take the time to write a summary for you?
Weird.
Yeah brah, I'm an old fashioned guy, brah. I operate in tried and true ways that may be a mystery to you internet-addled zombies.
Yes, if you don't mind, could you write me a summary of that article?
Find some more reliable sources when you get a chance too, thanks in advance, brah.
Well Brah, it's not a topic that interests me much, so I don't feel inclined to read it, less so to write you a summary. But keeping fishing, you used the wrong bait for me,,,, being an internet-addled-zombie I only get hooked by really accomplished trolls. Toot-A-Loo Brah. (Whatever a brah might be.)
So basically, yeah I can google an entire book. Not just a book, but a bestselling and critically acclaimed novel published in the last five years. It won two of the most prestigious literary awards in France.
tigerprowl wrote:
You can go to a bookstore and read the books there. You can go to the library and read books and borrow them. Just because it is on the internet doesn't mean you have to pay to see what is inside.
You can come to China and download it for free
Ditto for Thailand.
'Intellecutal Rights'? What the hell is that?
As far as I know, except for publications in public domain, you can't read the entire thing (some you can read quite a lot, but still limited, in others there are only small snippets), unless one uses some sort of hack -- but if this sort of thing were to be basis for something being illegal then anything that can be a target of hackers would be illegal; "hackers can hack your e-mail, that's an invasion of privacy, therefore e-mail should be illegal".
I don't know what's the quote tag, so here's the quote under the line:
Why some books aren’t available in full-text
Many of the books in Google Books come from authors and publishers who participate in our Partner Program. For these books, our partners decide how much of the book is browsable — anywhere from a few sample pages to the whole book. Some partners offer the entire book in a digital edition through Google eBooks, in which case you can purchase the book.
For books that enter Google Books through the Library Project, what you see depends on the book's copyright status. We respect copyright law and the tremendous creative effort authors put into their work. If the book is in the public domain and therefore out of copyright, you can page through the entire book and even download it and read it offline. But if the book is under copyright, and the publisher or author is not part of the Partner Program, we only show basic information about the book, similar to a card catalog, and, in some cases, a few snippets — sentences of your search terms in context. The aim of Google Books is to help you discover books and assist you with buying them or finding a copy at a local library. It's like going to a bookstore and browsing — with a Google twist.
https://support.google.com/books/answer/43729?hl=en
johnmusacha wrote:
NomadicKnight wrote:
Addicted-to-Chess97 wrote:
It's kinda weird, because we're just going to google the answer and give it to you. Why do you refuse to use google on the simple stuff, sure google's not good for everyhitng.
We've discussed this in Off Topic before. He lacks the initiative to look things up for himself and wants us to do all the work for him... Kinda like that one kid in school that always wants to cheat off of your tests instead of studying.
Riiight... relax, kid. You can think you are an armchair expert on any topic you want, son, as long as you have your internet connection and your "google" bot or whatever.
By the way, I could tell you were a hardcore right wing John Birch type by your myopic and hostile attitude toward intellectualism -- but you totally confirmed it with your ranting and raving about your small arms collection.
Fascist.
Try it... please, just TRY being self-reliant instead of dependant on others. Otherwise how will you ever learn anything? You hate Google, but guess what? Countless numbers of people go there every day to LEARN things. They have a question or topic that they want to learn about, they can go into Google (or any search engine), type in their query, and in seconds be LEARNING all on their own! Do you really hate the digital age, or are you simply trying to troll? At this point it is unclear, but I lean toward trolling.
You say "They have a question or topic that they want to learn about, they can go into Google (or any search engine), type in their query, and in seconds be LEARNING all on their own!"
But that is absolutely not true, and has been proven to be not true by morons in another thread. There are many things that one cannot find on the internet, even if you know where to look.
Thanks bubba.
sure it is
I love how this topic has almost nothing to do with chess.
Oh yeah, I think I can switch it to off topic. Good call.
johnmusacha wrote:
You say "They have a question or topic that they want to learn about, they can go into Google (or any search engine), type in their query, and in seconds be LEARNING all on their own!"
But that is absolutely not true, and has been proven to be not true by morons in another thread. There are many things that one cannot find on the internet, even if you know where to look.
Thanks bubba.
The only thing proven is your hypocrisy and dense gray matter. You have consistently pasted links to wiki, but think google is the devil. I have news for 'ya. They're both on the internet.
That is because I own Wikipedia, brah. It's mine.
It's my island.
bwhahahahah
johnmusacha wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:
Can someone please shed some light on this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Book_Search_Settlement_Agreement
Thank you very much for finding that, sir. Would you mind summarising the contents of that article for me? Thanks.
Well, this kinda helps NK's point on #21. I mean the guy actually researched it for you and you go far enough to ask him to summarize what he found for you because you dont care to read it?
johnmusacha wrote:
You say "They have a question or topic that they want to learn about, they can go into Google (or any search engine), type in their query, and in seconds be LEARNING all on their own!"
But that is absolutely not true, and has been proven to be not true by morons in another thread. There are many things that one cannot find on the internet, even if you know where to look.
Thanks bubba.
You can find everything on the internet. Let me guess: You are some old curmudgeon that doesn't believe in modern technology, so you dismiss it as false or even "evil". Please tell me you at least own a dictionary and an encyclopedia set. Otherwise you must one one very ignorant 62 year old person, and I imagine your coworkers have great fun laughing at you behind your back when you step off your forklift to grab a doughnut, knowing that you are too ignorant to have any possibility of retirement because you "dont believe in 401K investments, that's just foolish youngster i-dee-ers and I'd be throwing away my $10.50 an hour wage that I worked so hard for 43 years to achieve"
Or, in short form, you're a troll, trying to make people think you are really so ignorant and treat the internet as blasphemous whipper-snapper technology that is a passing fad.
Can someone please shed some light on this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Book_Search_Settlement_Agreement
Thank you very much for finding that, sir. Would you mind summarising the contents of that article for me? Thanks.
Not really
I remember reading about when Google first was working on the process so thought I would point to an article that would explain some of it.
That basically is a summary, so if you are unwilling to read it then I guess you'll have to remain in the dark.