How long should we spend on each tactics puzzle?

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Deranged

I'm really struggling with tactics. I'm sitting around 2500 tactics rating and the puzzles are so tough that I'll often spend 20+ mins on a single puzzle, only to take an educated guess and get the answer wrong. Today I even spent 38 mins on a single puzzle!

Is it bad for me to spend so long on a single puzzle? What's the ideal amount of time to spend on each puzzle?

notmtwain
Deranged wrote:

I'm really struggling with tactics. I'm sitting around 2500 tactics rating and the puzzles are so tough that I'll often spend 20+ mins on a single puzzle, only to take an educated guess and get the answer wrong. Today I even spent 38 mins on a single puzzle!

Is it bad for me to spend so long on a single puzzle? What's the ideal amount of time to spend on each puzzle?

Whatever it takes. If you can solve it in 38 minutes, you probably had to have reached a level of understanding that will hopefully come in handy over the board some day.

The target time suggested, 44 seconds, is a joke.

MarkGrubb

I'm 1475 puzzle and typically take 3 to 8 minutes. I normally guess after 20 minutes. I hardly ever make the target time.

Deranged

So 5 months later and I'm sitting around 2900 tactics rating now.

I'm still finding myself spending 20+ minutes on some puzzles and getting them wrong. Is it counterproductive to spend this long on a single puzzle?

My puzzle rush scores aren't great (32 in 5 mins is my record after hundreds of attempts), so I'm wondering if it's worth giving up on accuracy to instead practice blitzing them out faster?

NilsIngemar

Learning curve. Study the solutions, see if you can see the motif.

Deranged
DigitalWarfare wrote:

I absolutely cannot get myself to spend more than a few seconds on most puzzles at this point. I just have no patience for them since they're not a real game and the position isn't mine. Why wouldn't I just rather play games and then go over tactics from them? Or review master games and go over important tactics in those? 30-40+ minutes on a tactical puzzle? Guys...That's 30 minutes longer than it would take me to give the puzzle a shot. If I get it wrong, I'll see the solution immediately. I can't fathom how someone could muster the mental energy to spend that much time on a puzzle.

Real games are always too rushed. Even in 10 minute rapid games, there's only so much you can calculate. You end up just playing by intuition and making the same mediocre moves, game after game.

But puzzles give you a chance to play brilliant moves. They give you a chance to calculate epic combinations that you wouldn't otherwise calculate. And it always feels satisfying when you find that beautiful combination to force a win after going through every possibility.

soli1234

Well, I'm kind of late here, but my lichess puzzle rating is around 2100-2200 ish, and I usually take about 5 to 10 minutes on each one. I find that when I get lazy and try to blitz through them, I only get about 1/2 of them right, but when I actually try and focus I normally get them right. It's kind of annoying sometimes when I get the first move or two right, but then play an inaccurate next move and still lose as much rating as I would if I had made the wrong move the first go. 

I think puzzles do help a lot in your chess understanding as they could appear in your games (normally in longer time control though, blitz is just intuition and forcing lines). Like I sometimes see new tactical possibilities after doing them. I'm pretty sure in a chess 24 Q&A session Karjakin said that you shouldn't spend more than 15 minutes on a problem or else you won't get that much time in IRL games. 

FYI- This isn't my account, it's my brother's account, and I don't do tactics on chess.com because it costs money. 

drmrboss
goldenbeer wrote:

If you are interested to solve them quicker, you may watch my recent videos on road to 3000+. In a worst case with commentary I spend 5-6 minutes per tactic (most of them 2-3 minutes with commentary). Without commentary I can do much faster (since I don’t need to express my thought process).


My comments are not that quick as top GMs, I also don’t show arrows since on a real board there is no arrow to help you, but I explain it as much as details I can, and you can see many of them are actually simple by applying certain elimination techniques.

Here is my today’s video:

Road to 3000+ Part III

Go and check OP profile. He already passed 3000+ and you are not.

Paste your teaching methods on your wall yourself and try to get 3000+ yourself. happy.png

tygxc

#1
"How long should we spend on each tactics puzzle?"
The same time as you spend on a move when you play.

fakeguet
soli1234 wrote:

Well, I'm kind of late here, but my lichess puzzle rating is around 2100-2200 ish, and I usually take about 5 to 10 minutes on each one. I find that when I get lazy and try to blitz through them, I only get about 1/2 of them right, but when I actually try and focus I normally get them right. It's kind of annoying sometimes when I get the first move or two right, but then play an inaccurate next move and still lose as much rating as I would if I had made the wrong move the first go.

I think puzzles do help a lot in your chess understanding as they could appear in your games (normally in longer time control though, blitz is just intuition and forcing lines). Like I sometimes see new tactical possibilities after doing them. I'm pretty sure in a chess 24 Q&A session Karjakin said that you shouldn't spend more than 15 minutes on a problem or else you won't get that much time in IRL games.

FYI- This isn't my account, it's my brother's account, and I don't do tactics on chess.com because it costs money.

Me to

CoreyDevinPerich
No more than 3 seconds, ideally.
AhmedMansour101

Thanks, that was a good read!