How many "Mozarts" of chess?

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Karpov is definitely not a "Mozart of Chess". Botvinnik when running the Moscow chess school is on the record saying that he was quite unconvinced of young Karpov's potential. Karpov's beginning was decidedly unspectacular in comparison to the undisputed "Mozarts of Chess" like Morphy, Capablanca, Kasparov and Carlsen.

kleelof

I think you have it backwards:

Andre_Harding

There are only two "Mozarts" of chess:

Paul Morphy and Jose Capablanca.

polydiatonic

Andre, that's silly.  Morphy was by far the most booked up player of his time.  This is well documented.  He worked very hard, especially on opening preparation, during a very "unscienctific" period of chess.  Of course he was a genius but this was aided by the fact that he almost always had an advantage coming out of the opening.

kleelof
polydiatonic wrote:

he was a genius 

How do you know he was a genius? Being really good at chess hardly makes one a genius.

Andre_Harding
polydiatonic wrote:

Andre, that's silly.  Morphy was by far the most booked up player of his time.  This is well documented.  He worked very hard, especially on opening preparation, during a very "unscienctific" period of chess.  Of course he was a genius but this was aided by the fact that he almost always had an advantage coming out of the opening.

Well, all the great chess players worked hard! But Morphy and Capablanca made chess look effortless. It isn't just about preparation--these two had something extra. Fischer, for example, was a wonderful player but he never made chess look "effortless," neither did Kasparov, nor does Carlsen.

Who comes closest? Probably the young Vishy Anand in his "lightning kid" days of winning classical games against strong GMs within a half hour.

DjonniDerevnja
Andre_Harding wrote:

There are only two "Mozarts" of chess:

Paul Morphy and Jose Capablanca.

And there is only one Magnus Carlsen  Smile

DjonniDerevnja

Do you want to know who the chessplayer is that is rising surprisingly high, putting in minimum effort?

His name is Ola Sæteren Berntsen, nick is obern98.

He is yet far away from titled level, such as most chessplayers who hasnt studied too hard, but I tell you masters, be aware, he might be harder than you anticipate.

He is a supertalent, but ewen though the kid-GM´s Giri, Carlsen , Caruana and Karjakin have worked hard to get on top I guess that they might would have been even stronger than Ola, with that minimal amount of studying. But I cant be sure, because my nephew (and his brother Eivind, TheAlmightyHelix), both are geniuses.

In four years, maybe earlier, I guess Andreas Tryggestad (12years) will become GM. He too is a natural, and was terribly strong at the age of 9. Andreas is working and studying, adding that on top of his natural supertalent, such as Giri, , Tari, Carlsen, Caruana and Karjakin have done. (Aryan Tari at 2487 and 15 years is predicted to be the next GM in Norway, he is a supreme talent and was able to play 3-3unofficial against Ola, when Aryan was 8 and Ola was 9. Aryan is one of the most active tournamentplayers in Norway, and going in with huge effort.)

I think that all Kid-Gm´s in the world are natural born superchesstalents that have added hard work on top. Without that hard work, they woudnt got the tiltle.They couldnt done it without the supertalent either. Maybe IM before 18, but not GM.

imirak

Also Prokofiev is the Prokofiev of chess.   :)