I feel like there's a lot of under under under under underestimating going on here.

I'd only feel that i could definitely win against a GM if I had queen odds, both rook odds, 60 to 1 time odds and maybe a few pawns. Even then I'm not really 100% sure, but I feel like surely I could pretty effortlessly maintain a harmless position and simply over pressure his pieces and force a few exchanges to make it a blindly easy endgame where I'm up two or three pieces.

I'd hope I could win that....

Knight, bishop, or rook odds would be a joke. I'd get destroyed. Even two knight or two bishop I'm sure would be a thrashing.

You've got to be kidding?

No no, he is being pretty modest. Schachgeek is going to beat super gms with 15 min to 60 min time odds.

A few years of more chess study and he'd probably be ready to give them odds himself.

lol Come on philidor, we're not worthy to be on the same thread as these chess titans. GM Reshevsky I'm sure will soon be telling everyone about how he got a draw with the great schachgeek.

He will need some sort of inter-dimensional connection, he's brown bread.

So he is. That certainly exposes my ignorance to chess history in general.

I played blitz against GM Darwin Laylo, who is a former teammate of mine back in college. It's part of our training. In 10 games, with 5 minutes for me and one minute for him, I managed to draw twice and lost 8 times in 10 games. not bad considering he is one of our country's top players. Now, I have improved and have been studying chess so I feel I can at least win once in 10 games against a super GM with that time set up.

I don't get everyone's opinion on time odds.... the GM can still think while you're thinking... If you're only using time odds then really, he's going to rely on your turn for thinking time. I'm sure a super gm grasps the fundamentals of the position enough that he'll have plenty of time.

I agree, the time odds don't quite work because an experienced GM can use your time for thinking. A piece odds wouldn't be just piece odds but they would eliminate openings theory, create unfamiliar middle game positions etc.

I have seen some club level players win against GMs with Knight odds, but it happened in maybe one game out of 5. (And probably with the GMs drinking a little.)

How about Queen odds, 5m to 1m time odds, and he has to helpmate himself? That might give a strong player a chance. If I can trade off enough pieces he might, just might not be able to force me into a mating position.

On time odds though: I would think 60m:15m would give the weaker player absolutely no compensation. The GM will find your move faster than you will, and find his reply to it before you've figured out what you're doing, and if you make a different move, it's probably significantly weaker and a few seconds off his clock to refute it won't matter much.

At like 10 minutes to 1, the time difference might matter, because every time he has to deal with complications and it takes him even a second, that's over 1% of his entire time. So if you're fairly strong, it might let you force him into such serious time trouble that you have a chance. I certainly wouldn't have a shot at these odds. Maybe 10 minutes to 1 + rook or something, if I got lucky.

I can't find the source right now but I remember that Kasparov questioned his ability to give knight odds to a 2300 (maybe lower?) and win in a 10 game match. He thought he might score 4-6 or 3.5-6.5 or so.

Anyone remember this anecdote? I'd love to pin this one down.

You're another one who hasn't read the question properly. But anyway in that case I can only dream of ever being as good as you then. I'm guessing you're at least an International Master?

Larry Kauffman suggested that a 2100 Fide player would be an about even match for Kasparov with Knight odds.

http://home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Articles/evaluation_of_material_imbalance.htm

Lets keep in mind that Fischer used to demolish strong IMs at 5/1  time odds. So the people here thinking they would do ok with 5/1 against a super GM are gonna be demolished if they arent at least IM strength.....

why everybody wants to beat a super GM with odds ?? why dont we try to be a super GM.for GMs and Super GMs,Chess is a profession.But we play chess after our daily proffession.This is the verybig odds to us.  Starved  stomach will not play games.

 Maybe i could beat a grandmaster if he hadn't slept for a week.

lol !

Bet you couldn't.