How often does a Fools Mate Occur Realistically?

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I’ve heard of fools mate, which occurs when the following happens: 1. f4


e6 2. g4 Qh4#. How often does this happen in a match, realistically speaking? It seems hard to fall for this, but I’ve seen it happen.

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

I’ve heard of fools mate, which occurs when the following happens: 1. f4


e6 2. g4 Qh4#. How often does this happen in a match, realistically speaking? It seems hard to fall for this, but I’ve seen it happen.

 

Rarely and most likely against beginners. The pattern, on a latter move, is likely more common but still probably rare.

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The 2 move mate version of it probably never happens in real games.

But that sort of pattern has probably mated quite a few beginner level players before move 10... still very rare of course, but not unheard of.

(looks like @martin_stahl beat me to it)

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not sure, but it'd be rare because of the opening

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There are some traps if you start with f4 or g4 

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Not the two-move version, but I've had opponents make it available a few moves later. (I'm sub-1200 rapid). Just a few days ago, on [the other site], I was able to win by checkmate on move 15, when my opponent moved their g-pawn, having previously moved their f-pawn. https://lichess.org/Kzw5zH3R/white

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That’s a common example although I haven’t seen it in games much 

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I might’ve had one game like that, would have to look through my database tho

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

I’ve heard of fools mate, which occurs when the following happens: 1. f4


e6 2. g4 Qh4#. How often does this happen in a match, realistically speaking? It seems hard to fall for this, but I’ve seen it happen.

Only if you're one angry hou

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1860931

But lalith didn't like it.

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I've gotten Fools Mate once, and I got this just now:

Not the first time either

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They're more likely to fall for it if you premove Be7.