How should effective preparation be like?

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Right now I'm studying the Najdorf Sicilian and after spending 4 hours cross checking with the engine on these Bg5 lines, I realized that if i just follow computer moves until I reach a drawn position, how can I ever hope to play for an advantage.

How would you study openings in depth on all the possible variations without wasting so much time crosschecking with the computer continuously to make sure it's objectively sound?

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I ended up only covering one specific move with 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.0-0-0 Nbd7 10.Bd3 b5 11.Rhe1 Bb7 12.Qh3!? & 12.Qg3

And suddenly without me realizing it, I covered the entire variation with white's idea of sacrificinf a piece with Nd5 up to the equal endgame if perfectly played by both sides.... 3 hours covering the intricacies of 12.Qh3 is ridiculous no?

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Hrishin wrote:

everyone says....u should not learn openings..first learn basics and middlegame and endgame and tactics....i am sick of these dialougues....opening is indeeed important.....we all have to study openings more than middle game... but learning opening in ur manner is not appropiate......u have to learn it in a rare way.....in that way u can be a opening master...and can able to crush ur opponents....

the poster is 2400 in blitz, he has a firm understanding of the middlegame and endgame

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Not really sure but uh we can play some time I play e4 and I play the bg5 line

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Batman2508 wrote:

Not really sure but uh we can play some time I play e4 and I play the bg5 line

Thanks for the offer batman, but I really wanna try to perfect my theoretical najdorf lines before applying some psudo-theory on the spot like I usually do 😆

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Study complete GM games in your chosen line instead. That will teach you not only opening move sequences but also the typical middle-game plans and the typical endgames that can arise from your chosen opening.

I've been playing the Sicilian Najdorf for about 50 years (since 1971) and only ONCE has an in-depth study of a specific Najdorf line ever payed off as planned. In the Malaysia vs Canada rated match, I prepared an improvement on move 28 (!) of a specific variation in the Najdorf Fischer-Sozin variation. Wonder of wonders, my opponent played exactly that line, all the way out to move 28, and I was able to spring my improvement. When he resigned five moves later, we were still in my home prep... the game's final position had been on my analysis board when I was preparing the line.

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

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blueemu wrote:

Study complete GM games in your chosen line instead. That will teach you not only opening move sequences but also the typical middle-game plans and the typical endgames that can arise from your chosen opening.

I've been playing the Sicilian Najdorf for about 50 years (since 1971) and only ONCE has an in-depth study of a specific Najdorf line ever payed off as planned. In the Malaysia vs Canada rated match, I prepared an improvement on move 28 (!) of a specific variation in the Najdorf Fischer-Sozin variation. Wonder of wonders, my opponent played exactly that line, all the way out to move 28, and I was able to spring my improvement. When he resigned five moves later, we were still in my home prep... the game's final position had been on my analysis board when I was preparing the line.

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

Ahhhh Thank you for this insight & awesome game!

I try as much as I can to follow games in the megadatabase but still, these are very obscure lines & have never been played before essentially. Tough to prepare when there isn't someone's example to compare to hahah

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Personally when I was just starting out I'd play games against myself. If I was gonna play people around the same rating as me, then the person with the closest rating to me would be me, right? 

So I'd test ideas and stuff and then I'd play a lot of blitz in those lines. If it worked, great. If it didn't, then I'd analyze and see where it went wrong. Kind of like how people keep patching up anti malware programs to cover the latest malware. 

Although if this is how opening prep is like at the 2400 blitz level, then man, I need to step up my game... I don't even know how you get the megabase.

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B1ZMARK wrote:

Personally when I was just starting out I'd play games against myself. If I was gonna play people around the same rating as me, then the person with the closest rating to me would be me, right? 

So I'd test ideas and stuff and then I'd play a lot of blitz in those lines. If it worked, great. If it didn't, then I'd analyze and see where it went wrong. Kind of like how people keep patching up anti malware programs to cover the latest malware. 

Although if this is how opening prep is like at the 2400 blitz level, then man, I need to step up my game... I don't even know how you get the megabase.

Only now am I realizing the importance of deep theoretical preparation because I really hate how I've been winning blitz games from bad openings which isn't healthy for my chess...  especially if I use this mindset in classical chess.

The megadatabase is from chessbase, you have to buy it so you can see almost every high profile rated tournament game ever played