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How to get better at blitz?
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lolurspammed wrote:
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Oh, wait....
I have the same problem. My blitz rating is waaay lower than my OTB rating. I think I need a different approach to blitz, but I'm not sure what it is.
Dec 4, 2014
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BoardOfWar wrote:
Why are so many players even interested in getting better at blitz? Nobody cares about anything other than your USCF/FIDE standard rating when it all comes down to it.
Blitz is just such a shallow, quick, watered down version of chess. It's simply a fast food like addiction and just detracts from your ability to calculate, play positionally, and have a true game of chess.
In all honestly, blitz is about calculations and tactics, aka positional play. It just forces you to think quicker about said moves. I mean, if it was entirely useless, you wouldn't see the same GMs on top of blitz events.
If you can think of strong tactics quick enough for blitz, what is to stop you from doing the same in a slow game?
Dec 4, 2014
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#27
Blitz hasn't harmed my chess at all. The backyard professor is the main reason I've improved and blitz is just for fun.
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penguingm1 wrote:
blitz is not bad for your chess...
Sorry, I've just read and heard nothing but the contrary from tons of people online and off. It makes sense, too. I have no idea how you can expect to improve your standard chess rating by playing 3/0 chess. You're simply crippling your vision and calculation when you're used to making all of your moves in 20 seconds. I understand some of you are addicted to it but that doesn't mean it's beneficial for your chess or as beneficial as playing long games. Blitz is a fun little side game but ...that's it.
My original question still stands: I have no idea why someone would be interested in improving their blitz rating when nobody cares about who's good at blitz. The only thing that's relevant is how good you are at standard chess and that's why I wonder why the OP wouldn't just put his efforts into improving across the board (pun intended) as opposed to focusing on a fun variant.
The only way to be able to be good at both is to practice both. It probably isn't recommended for just anyone to jump into blitz chess first but, if you apply yourself to each of them in the appropriate way, it really isn't much different that someone trying to get good at Fischer random chess while they attempt to learn standard chess. Playing both blitz and standard chess, without any detriment, is sort of like practing 2 minute or hurry up offense in the NFL, as opposed to going at a more common pace.
Dec 4, 2014
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I think lolurs has shown his reasons already. He believes if he gets better at blitz it'll be possible for him to avoid losing when he's low on time because of a simple mistake. I don't believe you can deny this statement "When time is running low, the one whose blitz rating is the highest will have a valuable advantage"
Dec 4, 2014
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#31
BoardOfWar wrote:
Krownyh wrote:
I think lolurs has shown his reasons already. He believes if he gets better at blitz it'll be possible for him to avoid losing when he's low on time because of a simple mistake. I don't believe you can deny this statement "When time is running low, the one whose blitz rating is the highest will have a valuable advantage"
I understand that but how much time are you going to devote to blitz in order to get better in the occassional extremely low time scenario during a standard game?
I do see the value of being capable of handling time pressure, but I just can't justify pouring hours into blitz while stunting my growth as a chess player overall in order to do so. I mean, if I want to work on moving faster I can play a 30/0 or a 15/10. That's MORE than fast enough. 3/0 and 1/0 chess is just ...stupid to even look at sometimes.
This is why I just shake my head sometimes when I see people analysing blitz games on this site. There are quotes from GM's out there calling anyone who even attempts to analyze a blitz game "stupid". There's really nothing to be learned from it.
Nhm, just one game a day would be plenty I suppose, results comes from building up not pilling up so a mass of games wouldn't help. And yeah, I totally agree with your statement about 3/0 1/0, however I still like 10/0 time control.
But I wonder about these GM's quote, there are always exceptions.
For the OP, can you answer a question? Like "Why do you take long to move under longer time control?" Thinking lines, analyzing the board, searching for tactics, looking for a good move?
Blitz is completely bad for your chess as evidenced by the fact that all the top players are terrible blitz players and hardly ever do it. Oh wait, the opposite.
Dec 4, 2014
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lolurspammed wrote:
My "quick" rating OTB is 1592 and my real rating is 1828 with no blitz rating as of yet. What chess.com views as standard, such as 15 minute games, OTB is viewed as "quick" games. Anything 60 minutes or below time controls go on your quick rating. 30 minutes is the lowest time I believe for your standard rating to be effected OTB. I think anything below 30 minute games, your quick rating is the only rating that is adjusted. USCF recently brought in a new rule, a "blitz" rating option, however we don't have any blitz tournaments around our club so I don't have a chance to practice rated blitz OTB except in casual night on Tuesdays at our club, which I ocassionally visit.
When you play in a blitz tournament for the first time, USCF takes your regular rating and uses it as your blitz rating.
Dec 4, 2014
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#35
penguingm1 wrote:
blitz is not bad for your chess...
I think that at best it is a mixed bag. When I play for two or three or eight hours, my play gets sloppy and shallow thinking is reinforced when I win. When I play a maximum of 4-6 games and then spend more time analyzing than I did playing, improvement should be certain.
After more than 60,000 online blitz games over the past fifteen years, there is very little that I have not seen. Knowing what to do about all these things, however, eludes me still.
I think that my time spent on blitz has improved some simple pattern recognition and broadened my experience with many aspects of the game. But, it also has helped to reinforce bad habits that hold me back.
My blitz addiction may have helped me rise to USCF Class A, but it probably hinders my ambition of becoming an expert.
lolurspammed wrote:
I'm terrible at blitz/quick chess.
Your blitz rating is pretty low for your USCF rating. I thought I was just about the worst blitz player with USCF 1800 rating, but you have proved me wrong.
One thing I noticed is that your tactics trainer rating is also really low, so maybe your tactical pattern recognition has something to do with the low blitz rating.
Dec 4, 2014
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#37
Well yeah I'm not great with seeing tactics quickly. I can calculate long variations with time, but I can't spot in between moves and mate combinations quickly. I always find the second best or third best moves on tactic trainer. Just like in the real game.
i improve by studying normal study like stuff and then play some blitz and then study a little then play more blitz
And another thing, if you are ahead in time, make moves at the section of the board that are furthest away from the clock, specifically moves that forces exchanges in a far corner.