How to set Rybka moves

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Hi everyone. I have been studying Rybka (I set games between Rybka 4 and other engines). But one thing bothers me very much. Rybka makes some odd openings and initial moves. I want to force Rybka to make some specific initial moves, is there a way to do that?

 I use arena 3.0, which I already find difficult because the only way I can set a game between 2 engines is in the tournament mode, is there a way to set an engine for white and another for black beyond the tournament mode? Thank you very much, I really want to make my study of chess easier and faster.

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Oh and another thing. Whenever I move a piece, the engine answers in the other side. Sometimes that pisses me off. Is there a way to TURN OFF the engines in arena 3.0, like a hotkey or something?

 

If I can hotkey engines on/off and set a fixed engine for white and a different one for black, my problem is really solved. Thanks. 

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In Arena, you can just push the "edit" key to move all by yourself.

Matches between engines are good only for patzers, you have absolutely nothing to learn there.

Their moves are irrational, based on brute force calculation, or at best flawed algorithms.

You'd rather studdy some classic games instead, now THIS is time well-spent.

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I didn't ask if I should or not study Rybka and I will not discuss such a thing here, but thanks for the "edit" tip.

 

My initial questions are still up. 

Avatar of pfren

Ah... OK. Buy some popcorn then, if you want to do something useful while you set&watch your engine matches.

Regards.

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Thank you for your kindness.

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By the way, I didn't find this "edit" button, unless you are referring to the "set up a position", which is not helpful.

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It was not kindness... just a warning.

Apparently you don't appreciate it, but I don't really care. It's your own fooking time, you can kill it anyway you please. Just don't complain if you stay an eternal patzer... the fault will be all yours.

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Ok, congratulations and thank you.

 

Now if anyone would like to help me with my initial questions, I would apprectiate. 

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AlxMaster wrote:

By the way, I didn't find this "edit" button, unless you are referring to the "set up a position", which is not helpful.

Last button to the right, downsides to the movelist. If you cannot see it, then you probably don't use Arena.

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Thank you, now I got it, it's very helpful.

 

Now I only need to set a fixed engine for black and another for white. 

Avatar of Oecleus

pfren what is wrong with your head? such unwarranted aggression, what happened to cause you to act this way? and all along while you were being an asshole he was being kind, and you still choose to be an asshole.

AlxMaster if you want to save some time there are already people who have played thousands of games between chess engines. The site "http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/" has more games than you'll ever want, and if you want to look at games in a specific opening you can check "http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/opening_report_by_eco.html"

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I downloaded a file with all games, but can't open it.

 

Can the games be visualized in ChessDB? 

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AlxMaster wrote:

I downloaded a file with all games, but can't open it.

 

Can the games be visualized in ChessDB? 

I'm not sure if its a problem with memory or what, it is a rather large file.

If you right click on the pgn you should be able to have it open with arena or chessbase lite. Also i've noticed that with a file that size arena tends to screw up some of the games.

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Do you know how to set a fixed engine for arena white and a different one for black?

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you can probably do it by engines>tournament but i don't see the usefullness of it because there are already countless games at the link i provided and i don't believe there is an option to select a specific opening under "tournament"

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The tournament option is not useful, because I can't force specific moves. I want to do it outside tournament. The database will be useful as soon as I can open it.

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The extension of the database from that site is .7z I don't know how to open it.

 

The idea of a juicy database full of Rybka games is tempting, but what bothers me about this database, is that it has thousands of engines. Some are strong, some are weak. I would really like to study only the best engines available. Then again, I went to the option of downloading specific engine games, but the games of rybka are only a few thousand, that's too few as I want to study a good number of initial moves.

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AlxMaster wrote:

The tournament option is not useful, because I can't force specific moves. I want to do it outside tournament. The database will be useful as soon as I can open it.

Why can't you open the database? Is it because you don't know how to open a 7z file? (Go to http://www.7-zip.org/ and download 7-Zip.)

The tournament option has nothing to do with an engine playing only certain lines. You'll have to create a new Arena opening book containing only the lines you want the engine to play, then you'll have to tell the engine to use that new book.

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How do I create a new arena opening book?

How do I make the engine use it?

Does that work in tournament mode?