CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
You forgot to post the game. I do it all the time.
I didn't forget... I'm trying to work out how. Can you help me?
How to stop kingside piece storm?
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Jun 9, 2018
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Palgun4180 vs you?
Some positions allow for such ideas. There's nothing wrong you did to allow it, and there's no way to stop your opponent from trying to attack like that.
But your move 14...h6 certainly helped white's attacking ideas. After h6, as white I probably would have tried the same sort of attack. In e4-e5 structures, a common winning attack after h6 is Nh4-f5 then sacrifice on h6 or g7. But without h6 it's usually a dud. You can play g6 to kick out a knight on f5 (or prevent it from landing there in the first place) and there's no way to sacrifice on h6 because a pawn isn't there.
The position after 17.Bxh6 is another position that's worthwhile to remember. A queen behind a bishop on the rook file like that is a very common and very big threat to the king, so it's not a surprise the engine says white is completely winning if he'd played 18.f4, trying to open the f file and bring the rook into the attack.
And that's what attacks and defenses are about... opening lines, bringing more attackers (and trading off important defenders) for the offense, while the defender wants to close lines or control lines, and stick pieces inbetween the dangerous attackers and their king. For example one of the reasons your move 18...Ng6 was good is it puts a stable piece between your king and anything that might try to attack it on the g file.
Later 24...Rg8 took over the g file completely, and 26...Ng8 took back ownership of the h8-a1 diagonal. This ended the attack (although white got desperate during the game and tried to keep it going).
One difficulty for you though was your bad queen on a6, and then later you waste time with Qxa2 and Qxb3. It's no surprise the engine points out 30.Rxf7+ and also 31.Rfxf7+ would have been at least a draw for white. So your 21st move is not a move any experienced player would consider. She needs to stay close to the kingside. A move like 21...Qd7 is automatic. And a move like 29...Qxa2 is like waving a red flag to a bull. You're loudly daring white to try and mate you. Instead a move like 29...Qb7 is good, keeping control of your 2nd rank (stopping Rc7 and Qe7 ideas).
Jun 9, 2018
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#5
So to summarize:
1) Don't move the pawns in front of your king unless you have a very good reason
2) Defenders want to keep lines closed, or if open, control the lines that lead to their king (lines are files, ranks, and diagonals)
3) Since that's not always possible, defenders also want a fair number of pieces near the king that can jump in between attackers and the king
4) You can't stop your opponent from sacrificing material near your king, but if you defend successfully, you'll come out ahead.
Jun 9, 2018
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#6
new_name_1 wrote:
You just, kind of, block it - by pushing your own pawns forward against his,
He said piece storm, not pawn storm 
In the game the opponent offered a knight sac to open lines to his king. He accepted the sac and then tried to defend.
hey mate- if you are using app you need to go to browser to post a game
if you just use app you might be able to post a game from an ios chess database app (i have yet to try)
it looks like the time control was a rapid game?
your ultra aggressive king secret service body guard sortie looked more like a chessbrah attack in bullet but your coordination wasnt quite ready
you're set up was.really solid out of the opening but then things opened up too fast when you traded your bishop in center of board; you had good pawn set up-- if you took a few moves to position both bishops at king (pretty sure white castled) you might have had a better attack
good luck
if you just use app you might be able to post a game from an ios chess database app (i have yet to try)
it looks like the time control was a rapid game?
your ultra aggressive king secret service body guard sortie looked more like a chessbrah attack in bullet but your coordination wasnt quite ready
you're set up was.really solid out of the opening but then things opened up too fast when you traded your bishop in center of board; you had good pawn set up-- if you took a few moves to position both bishops at king (pretty sure white castled) you might have had a better attack
good luck
daxypoo wrote:
hey mate- if you are using app you need to go to browser to post a game
if you just use app you might be able to post a game from an ios chess database app (i have yet to try)
it looks like the time control was a rapid game?
your ultra aggressive king secret service body guard sortie looked more like a chessbrah attack in bullet but your coordination wasnt quite ready
you're set up was.really solid out of the opening but then things opened up too fast when you traded your bishop in center of board; you had good pawn set up-- if you took a few moves to position both bishops at king (pretty sure white castled) you might have had a better attack
good luck
if you just use app you might be able to post a game from an ios chess database app (i have yet to try)
it looks like the time control was a rapid game?
your ultra aggressive king secret service body guard sortie looked more like a chessbrah attack in bullet but your coordination wasnt quite ready
you're set up was.really solid out of the opening but then things opened up too fast when you traded your bishop in center of board; you had good pawn set up-- if you took a few moves to position both bishops at king (pretty sure white castled) you might have had a better attack
good luck
Thanks for your advice and insight. Truth is I panicked and though I was taking quite some time between moves, when you're in that panicked mindset you're not really thinking well. there's not much I can do to stop a kamikaze piece sac to throw my defence into chaos, but i think like you've advised there is some other fault besides.
Telestu wrote:
Palgun4180 vs you?
Some positions allow for such ideas. There's nothing wrong you did to allow it, and there's no way to stop your opponent from trying to attack like that.
But your move 14...h6 certainly helped white's attacking ideas. After h6, as white I probably would have tried the same sort of attack. In e4-e5 structures, a common winning attack after h6 is Nh4-f5 then sacrifice on h6 or g7. But without h6 it's usually a dud. You can play g6 to kick out a knight on f5 (or prevent it from landing there in the first place) and there's no way to sacrifice on h6 because a pawn isn't there.
The position after 17.Bxh6 is another position that's worthwhile to remember. A queen behind a bishop on the rook file like that is a very common and very big threat to the king, so it's not a surprise the engine says white is completely winning if he'd played 18.f4, trying to open the f file and bring the rook into the attack.
And that's what attacks and defenses are about... opening lines, bringing more attackers (and trading off important defenders) for the offense, while the defender wants to close lines or control lines, and stick pieces inbetween the dangerous attackers and their king. For example one of the reasons your move 18...Ng6 was good is it puts a stable piece between your king and anything that might try to attack it on the g file.
Later 24...Rg8 took over the g file completely, and 26...Ng8 took back ownership of the h8-a1 diagonal. This ended the attack (although white got desperate during the game and tried to keep it going).
One difficulty for you though was your bad queen on a6, and then later you waste time with Qxa2 and Qxb3. It's no surprise the engine points out 30.Rxf7+ and also 31.Rfxf7+ would have been at least a draw for white. So your 21st move is not a move any experienced player would consider. She needs to stay close to the kingside. A move like 21...Qd7 is automatic. And a move like 29...Qxa2 is like waving a red flag to a bull. You're loudly daring white to try and mate you. Instead a move like 29...Qb7 is good, keeping control of your 2nd rank (stopping Rc7 and Qe7 ideas).
Hey Telestu... Firstly thank you so much for putting such time and effort into your reply - that's really something. I've just read through at the moment, but will revisit the game with your replies in hand and go through everything you advise. The queen moves were what I think many players of my level do: they don't see another move and so just take for the sake of taking. Funny you mentioned them as they were the two moves I made with a feeling of dread that I wasn't sure I'd get any other moves but forced ones. But really, thank you very much for your reply and the time that took... It's very kind.
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
Yes: Go into your game archive, pull up the game, and then bring up the PGN of the game. Copy it. In your post here, click on the picture of the game board to the left of the emoticon icon and then you can paste your game and select other options. If you need further help, feel free to PM me.
Followed your advice but it just posts a static board in the set-up position.
(A lot of the problems stem from the fear of being pinned, as per your earlier game in this line).
CoffehCat wrote:
(A lot of the problems stem from the fear of being pinned, as per your earlier game in this line).
Awww... Thank you for posting the game. Drove me nuts trying to do it and failing miserably...
The-Michael-Corleone wrote:
this person couldn't against me
Thanks Mr M Corleone... I enjoyed going through that game. I saw a game where Fischer did something similar with his king in the opening. Not sure if it was the exact same as my memory is shot to pieces, but it was something similar.
[Excuse me I've not been able to find out how to post the game so as you can go through the moves. here's the link if anyone knows how to post it: https://www.chess.com/live/game/2866935872 ]
Hey everyone, need some advice on where I am going wrong. I did manage to win the posted game but I get the feeling I only won because my opponent blundered. Anyhow, it was a huge struggle and I was almost out of time having to think over every move (and I made those moves not really sure if I'd be mated imminently). Such games I've had many and I must lose about 85% of them. So what am I doing wrong that allows players to storm me like that. And, as I say, it's usually fatal.