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medelpad
I have the Dvoretskys endgame manual, how do I study it to get the most out of it?
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I have asked this question before to the people here on the chess.com forums. Here was the feedback 1) Study the position on an actual chess board 2) have a notebook in case you find anything that can be important, then you can write it down. 3) This one is a bonus, Write an essay on the book, for example I don't know if you have ever been on the blog side of chess.com, but some people will display their entire findings in a chess book, and post it there basically teaching others, and teaching someone else something by what I heard is scientifically the best way to remember something, because there is that saying along the lines of "if you can't explain it to like a beginner than you don't know it yourself", not the exact phrase but something along the lines of that. There are probably a lot of other things you can do, but this is just what I have picked up. I have never finished a chess book although I am working through one right now so I will also stick to doing these measures, but so far everything I have learned seems to stick pretty well..

blueemu

Use two boards. One to keep track of the actual game position, and one to look at side-lines.

By using two boards, it is quick and easy to re-set the second board back to the actual game position so that you can look at side-variations.

play4fun64

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/endgames/studying-endgame-with-database

Study more examples in the database.

StockOfHey
blueemu wrote:

Use two boards. One to keep track of the actual game position, and one to look at side-lines.

By using two boards, it is quick and easy to re-set the second board back to the actual game position so that you can look at side-variations.

Is it okay to use computer?

blueemu
StockOfHey wrote:

Is it okay to use computer?

Why would you want to?

Dvoretsky is trying to teach you endgame concepts and ideas. Chess engines don't deal in concepts and ideas. They deal in "I-go-here, he-goes-there".

deleteeet233

I once talked with blueemu he said he once defeated a top 10 chess player. But the nicest thing is he still did not wake up from sleep. Cheers.

blueemu
anonymous_training1 wrote:

I once talked with blueemu he said he once defeated a top 10 chess player. But the nicest thing is he still did not wake up from sleep. Cheers.

Which top ten player did I claim to defeat?

I drew against Tal in Saint John in 1988, but I didn't defeat him.

... he was just lucky.

Antonin1957

I agree that playing through the game positions with two chessboards is an excellent way to use such a book.

deleteeet233

Oh I forgot only drew with Tal. Thanks for the correction. Cheers..

putshort
Endgames are boring tho. But if you want to learn there are a few videos on YouTube about secrets like the rule of the square and other secrets like king opposition.
Robbos_Heir
Why on earth are endgames boring? They’re fascinating!
Thepasswordis1234
medelpad wrote:
I have the Dvoretskys endgame manual, how do I study it to get the most out of it?

when i somehow wake up at 3 am, i stay up until about 5, reading the book.

i almost never wake up at 3 am

deleteeet233

Rating rapid chess.com 0-1699 endgames are irrelevant. Chess.com 1800 rapid and above serious study of endgames is a must. But DEM is too hard at that moment. My estimate it is for 1800 FIDE and above. I could understand but hard to digest and time consuming more efficiently if you start with easier endgame books.

ChessMasteryOfficial

Break down your study into manageable sections. Don't try to absorb everything at once. Don't just passively read the book. Set up the positions on a physical board. Playing through the examples on a board helps reinforce your understanding.

tlay80
blueemu wrote:
StockOfHey wrote:

Is it okay to use computer?

Why would you want to?

Dvoretsky is trying to teach you endgame concepts and ideas. Chess engines don't deal in concepts and ideas. They deal in "I-go-here, he-goes-there".

Right, but if you're just using the computer to make it easier to re-set-up the board correctly, that's different.

Also, especially in high-level books like Dvoretsky, there may be moments where you find yourself asking "buy why not X"? Sometimes an engine can give you a quick answer to that question (though I take the point, and you have to be careful not to let the engine take over the analysis).

GumboStu
anonymous_training1 wrote:

Oh I forgot only drew with Tal. Thanks for the correction. Cheers..

"only"
grin

Uhohspaghettio1

Dvoretsky is a very advanced book even GMs use, so don't expect to fly through it in an afternoon exactly.

Learning the endgame takes time. I think this is why older people have a reputation of being better at the endgame - it's a slow accumulation of knowledge.

chessterd5

I enjoy Ruben Fines Basic Chess Endings.

I have other endgame books but I actually enjoy the encyclopediac nature of it.

medelpad
blueemu wrote:
anonymous_training1 wrote:

I once talked with blueemu he said he once defeated a top 10 chess player. But the nicest thing is he still did not wake up from sleep. Cheers.

Which top ten player did I claim to defeat?

I drew against Tal in Saint John in 1988, but I didn't defeat him.

... he was just lucky.

Wow, that's very impressive. Do you have the game saved and what was your fide back then?