How Would You Become a GM?

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Charlie101

I am wondering how would you attempt to reach GM level? I have about 2 years of free time, and would like to devote some time to chess.

I reached 2300. 

an interesting epiphany I got was if I were 2200, or 2300 in chess, then all I would need is to acquire rating in the following fashion:

openings - 100 ratings pts.

middlegames - 100 rating pts.

endgames - 100 rating pts.

 

I have become fond of mnemonics in chess, more so to create a formal mental track of knowledge and also to supplement the learning.

 

 

Dark_Army

I'm sure you are aware of GM norms.

 

Aside from that, it's my understanding that you must devote a certain amount of time every day to studying the various aspects of the game (Opening theory, middle game, endgame, strategy, tactics and all things in between). A big part of it is studying your own games deeply with computer analysis and understanding the reasons for the moves the computer suggests and why some of the moves you made weren't as good.

 

It also helps to have a powerful memory. Most GM's have highly trained memories. They can recall dozens (or hundreds) of games they have played and studied.

 

You're already an FM so I'm sure your aware of most of this stuff. I'd say just devote a few hours every day to studying chess and especially studying your games with computer analysis. It will pay off....maybe not to the point of achieving GM, but stronger than you are now.

ufmgambit06

Charles, I really enjoyed your Paul Morphy video here on chess.com

GodsPawn2016

1. Quit my job.

2. Hire a coach.

3. Study 12 hours a day.

4. Absorb book after book.

5. Seriously study openings (not gonna happen)

6. Turn my life over to a board game.

7. Turn my life over to a board game i cant make a living at.

8. Go broke traveling all over the world.

9. Eat foreign foods.

10. End up caoching/training to make a living.

BronsteinPawn
GodsPawn2016 escribió:

1. Quit my job.

2. Hire a coach.

3. Study 12 hours a day.

4. Absorb book after book.

5. Seriously study openings (not gonna happen)

6. Turn my life over to a board game.

7. Turn my life over to a board game i cant make a living at.

8. Go broke traveling all over the world.

9. Eat foreign foods.

10. End up caoching/training to make a living.

1. No need to quit your job.

2. No coach needed, altough they are pretty helpful.

3. Impossible, more like 6 hours.

4. Not hard.

5. Then you are busted, I dont know why people hate openings.

6. No need to turn out your life, Giri has a hot wife, Kasparov has kids, etc...

7. Ok, maybe true.

8. Fake, you cant travel if you are broke.

9. Lol?
10. If you actually are smart you can get a job after being a GM. For example coding.

11. Greetings.

BronsteinPawn

Being a doctor may be easier than being a GM because there are stablished universities for dat.

EugeneLasker

GM level is a 100 killed human

Charlie101

this is actually a very interesting conversation.

I know a GM that has a PhD. this is very powerful. it is an intended route.

I think as mentioned here it is a lifetime study thing.  this is possibly the approach I will end up taking. 

I dont have enough words about chess on the internet. I like the 5-min pool in the internet chess club. I think that the higher your rating is there, the more you can gauge your professional level. 2500 5-min is GM level in my opinion.

 

I see players like GM Conrad Holt who have ratings of 2600+ 5 min pool. this is incredible.

 

I would think that the best place to live in is NY for chess. IM Jay Bonin is a perfect example of how many games you can play a year in that area of the country. If you look at his history on uschess.org you notice 100's of events played.

 

the most difficult thing in chess is complacency. perfectionism is very hard to ignore when you have chess engines. 

BronsteinPawn

The best place to live for chess is probably Russia.

Even here in Mexico you are paid tournaments and other fees in you are in the CORRECT mafia.

However I dont think where you live should affect you.

I like God'sBot quote.

 

"The ultimate goal isn't to succeed or fail, it's to give it everything you have for something that's in your heart and a dream and pursuing that," 
Tim Tebow
 
I would recommend having a back up job, coding is probably the best to have an easy life and get the money. 
MVL has a deegree on math, however I doubt that will help him in his professional job, with those things the best you can hope for is a renounced place in a school, dealing with probably stupid kids for the rest of your life.

 

edguitarock
I'm no expert at all but from what I've read endgame study is key. Perhaps doing this intensely for 2 years would give you a competitive edge over players whose endgame technique is not as finely drilled. Whether it would be enough to gain 300 points, I don't know.
11111chess11111

where is the clock settings on chess.com

11111chess11111

plz plz plz

Charlie101

I agree, with the coding. I was thinking just simply front end web development would help a lot.

professorFortran

IMHO, it would be hard to beat hiring a coach, who is known for turning multiple FMs into GMs. Someone among FIDE Senior Trainers. https://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml?idcode=&name=&title=&other_title=FST&country=USA&sex=&srating=0&erating=3000&birthday=&radio=name&line=asc

talesfromthehood

It's easy, you first buy the land where the World Championship will be held. Then you hire contractors to build the building. If you have the money, it's pretty simple becoming a GM these days.

MitSud
I wouldn’t I don’t have the skill
MitSud
Although I’m only 14 lel
MitSud
U however my good sir, will have a much better chance, also learn the knight and bishop mate, it’s embarrassing watching titled players fail at a checkmate which I can do.
kindaspongey

Possibly of interest:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/can-anyone-be-an-im-or-gm
Train Like a Grandmaster by Kotov
Becoming a Grandmaster by Keene
What It Takes to Become a Grandmaster by GM Andrew Soltis
"BENJAMIN FINEGOLD (born Sep-06-1969 ...) ... Ben became a USCF Life Master at 15, USCF Senior Master at 16, an International Master in 1989, and achieved his final GM norm at the SPICE Cup B Section in September, 2009. ..."
http://www.chessgames.com/player/benjamin_finegold.html
"MARK IZRAILOVICH DVORETSKY (... died Sep-26-2016 ...) ... He was ... awarded the IM title in 1975. Dvoretsky was also a FIDE Senior Trainer and noted author. ... During the 1970s, Mark was widely regarded by the strongest IM in the world, ..."
http://www.chessgames.com/player/mark_izrailovich_dvoretsky.html
"To become a grandmaster is very difficult and can take quite a long time! ... you need to ... solve many exercises, analyse your games, study classic games, modern games, have an opening repertoire and so on. Basically, it is hard work ... It takes a lot more than just reading books to become a grandmaster I am afraid." - GM Artur Yusupov (2013)
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/QandAwithArturYusupovQualityChessAugust2013.pdf
https://www.chess.com/blog/smurfo/book-review-insanity-passion-and-addiction
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/26/books/books-of-the-times-when-the-child-chess-genius-becomes-the-pawn.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2017/05/05/making-a-living-in-chess-is-tough-but-the-internet-is-making-it-easier/#4284e4814850

https://www.chess.com/news/view/is-there-good-money-in-chess-1838
"... Many aspiring young chess players dream of one day becoming a grandmaster and a professional. ... But ... a profession must bring in at least a certain regular income even if one is not too demanding. ... The usual prize money in Open tournaments is meagre. ... The higher the prizes, the greater the competition. ... With a possibly not very high and irregular income for several decades the amount of money one can save for old age remains really modest. ... Anyone who wants to reach his maximum must concentrate totally on chess. That involves important compromises with or giving up on his education. ... it is a question of personal life planning and when deciding it is necessary to be fully conscious of the various possibilities, limitations and risks. ... a future professional must really love chess and ... be prepared to work very hard for it. ... It is all too frequent that a wrong evaluation is made of what a talented player can achieve. ... Most players have the potential for a certain level; once they have reached it they can only make further progress with a great effort. ... anyone who is unlikely to attain a high playing strength should on no account turn professional. ... Anyone who does not meet these top criteria can only try to earn his living with public appearances, chess publishing or activity as a trainer. But there is a lack of offers and these are not particularly well paid. For jobs which involve appearing in public, moreover, certain non-chess qualities are required. ... a relevant 'stage presence' and required sociability. ... All these jobs and existences, moreover, have hanging above them the sword of Damocles of general economic conditions. ... around [age] 40 chess players ... find that their performances are noticeably tailing off. ..." - from a 12 page chapter on becoming a chess professional in the book, Luther's Chess Reformation by GM Thomas Luther (2016)
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/LuthersChessReformation-excerpt.pdf

Charlie101
kindaspongey wrote:

Possibly of interest:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/can-anyone-be-an-im-or-gm
Train Like a Grandmaster by Kotov
Becoming a Grandmaster by Keene
What It Takes to Become a Grandmaster by GM Andrew Soltis
"BENJAMIN FINEGOLD (born Sep-06-1969 ...) ... Ben became a USCF Life Master at 15, USCF Senior Master at 16, an International Master in 1989, and achieved his final GM norm at the SPICE Cup B Section in September, 2009. ..."
http://www.chessgames.com/player/benjamin_finegold.html
"MARK IZRAILOVICH DVORETSKY (... died Sep-26-2016 ...) ... He was ... awarded the IM title in 1975. Dvoretsky was also a FIDE Senior Trainer and noted author. ... During the 1970s, Mark was widely regarded by the strongest IM in the world, ..."
http://www.chessgames.com/player/mark_izrailovich_dvoretsky.html
"To become a grandmaster is very difficult and can take quite a long time! ... you need to ... solve many exercises, analyse your games, study classic games, modern games, have an opening repertoire and so on. Basically, it is hard work ... It takes a lot more than just reading books to become a grandmaster I am afraid." - GM Artur Yusupov (2013)
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/QandAwithArturYusupovQualityChessAugust2013.pdf
https://www.chess.com/blog/smurfo/book-review-insanity-passion-and-addiction
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/26/books/books-of-the-times-when-the-child-chess-genius-becomes-the-pawn.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2017/05/05/making-a-living-in-chess-is-tough-but-the-internet-is-making-it-easier/#4284e4814850

https://www.chess.com/news/view/is-there-good-money-in-chess-1838
"... Many aspiring young chess players dream of one day becoming a grandmaster and a professional. ... But ... a profession must bring in at least a certain regular income even if one is not too demanding. ... The usual prize money in Open tournaments is meagre. ... The higher the prizes, the greater the competition. ... With a possibly not very high and irregular income for several decades the amount of money one can save for old age remains really modest. ... Anyone who wants to reach his maximum must concentrate totally on chess. That involves important compromises with or giving up on his education. ... it is a question of personal life planning and when deciding it is necessary to be fully conscious of the various possibilities, limitations and risks. ... a future professional must really love chess and ... be prepared to work very hard for it. ... It is all too frequent that a wrong evaluation is made of what a talented player can achieve. ... Most players have the potential for a certain level; once they have reached it they can only make further progress with a great effort. ... anyone who is unlikely to attain a high playing strength should on no account turn professional. ... Anyone who does not meet these top criteria can only try to earn his living with public appearances, chess publishing or activity as a trainer. But there is a lack of offers and these are not particularly well paid. For jobs which involve appearing in public, moreover, certain non-chess qualities are required. ... a relevant 'stage presence' and required sociability. ... All these jobs and existences, moreover, have hanging above them the sword of Damocles of general economic conditions. ... around [age] 40 chess players ... find that their performances are noticeably tailing off. ..." - from a 12 page chapter on becoming a chess professional in the book, Luther's Chess Reformation by GM Thomas Luther (2016)
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/LuthersChessReformation-excerpt.pdf

 this was actually partially very informative and helpful. thanks!!