How would your Chess.com elo compare to your OTB elo?

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JayeshSinhaChess

I have never played an OTB rated game. However I want to. So I was wondering how would one's elo on chess.com translate to OTB elo?


In the sense that would (on an avg.) be the OTB elo of a 1500 elo chess.com player.

I know there is no concrete answer to this as it will vary from player to player. However, even so on an average would you say his OTB elo will be the same as his online elo or will it be higher or lower?

notmtwain

There is a series of articles on this for the last 3 years written by NM Smarterchess. His latest survey is based on data from about 100 chess.com users. 

Chess Rating Comparison 2016 

notmtwain
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:

I have never played an OTB rated game. However I want to. So I was wondering how would one's elo on chess.com translate to OTB elo?

 

In the sense that would (on an avg.) be the OTB elo of a 1500 elo chess.com player.

I know there is no concrete answer to this as it will vary from player to player. However, even so on an average would you say his OTB elo will be the same as his online elo or will it be higher or lower?

https://www.chess.com/blog/smarterchess/chess-rating-comparison-2016

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Faith56

I can only imagine how low my OTB rating would be but I would guess it would be on the negative side.

masterfowler

from what ive seen blitz seems to be most accurate on here...no way to be sure though...with OTB you have a clock to press,notation,distractions of chairs moving,kids playing outside...otb is more difficult but much more fun imo

playing otb is your best shot at finding out i suppose

Sarozen

You will hear people commonly throw out that online ratings are much more inflated than OTB chess. In that your online rating can be 200 points higher than your actual OTB. This is commonly said. 

I actually disagree, I think they are pretty comparable. At least on chess.com.

I go to a local club and encounter players in the 1750-1950 range. I beat them 4/5 times which puts me around 1900-2000, which is my playing strength here on chess.com.

masterfowler
Sarogar wrote:

You will hear people commonly throw out that online ratings are much more inflated than OTB chess. In that your online rating can be 200 points higher than your actual OTB. This is commonly said. 

I actually disagree, I think they are pretty comparable. At least on chess.com.

I go to a local club and encounter players in the 1750-1950 range. I beat them 4/5 times which puts me around 1900-2000, which is my playing strength here on chess.com.

and yet you dont teach us mediocre folk haha

Airyaydayway

I'm not a seasoned blitz player, but after a couple of games I got to 1900 easy. Lost a couple of points after that. I haven't been playing that much, but if I'm on 1900-1950 blitz then that would be pretty close to my old OTB rating.

masterfowler
Airyaydayway wrote:

I'm not a seasoned blitz player, but after a couple of games I got to 1900 easy. Lost a couple of points after that. I haven't been playing that much, but if I'm on 1900-1950 blitz then that would be pretty close to my old OTB rating.

another powerhouse...how..............................................................

how do you guys get so strong

Airyaydayway

Hah, you're funny. I've played people a lot stronger than me for years after I did my tactics program. So that is the main thing I would do. Do your tactics and play stronger people, OTB if you can.

masterfowler

I am currently 1398 in otb with a peak rating of 1468 12 years ago...i hardly miss tactics defensive or attacking but i have the issue of playing myself from a better position into a worse one somewhere in the middlegame...maybe i am not aggressive enough?

Sarozen

I should also mention the stipulation that blitz and bullet are pretty comparable to your OTB rating.

 

Standard game time controls are probably inflated, because people...... cheat. 

masterfowler

my blitz here has a 2 point difference from my otb so i guess so

Martin_Stahl
Sarogar wrote:

You will hear people commonly throw out that online ratings are much more inflated than OTB chess. In that your online rating can be 200 points higher than your actual OTB. This is commonly said. 

I actually disagree, I think they are pretty comparable. At least on chess.com.

I go to a local club and encounter players in the 1750-1950 range. I beat them 4/5 times which puts me around 1900-2000, which is my playing strength here on chess.com.

 

Playing someone in casual chess games may not be a good indicator of tournament performance. It can be but that isn't always the case.

 

To the OP, I'm currently 1551 USCF OTB with a high of 1648. I don't play a ton of live here but my Rapid tracks most closely with OTB but still almost 100 points off. Maybe if I played more I could get them to match but it's going to be different for everyone. 


Now, my OTB Quick rating is very close to my chess.com rating. 

NewArdweaden

I tried to find the correlation some time ago:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/post-your-fide-online-and-tactics-rating

Tja_05

my USCF is 1942 blitz and 1919 reg.

OneThousandEightHundred18
You might be able to gauge it more accurately by looking at percentile rather than absolute rating. This would eliminate a lot of inconsistencies with inflation (obviously still not perfect).

I'm actually surprised no one has done this yet. I'm certainly too lazy to go looking it up 👍