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ObliviousSheep

Hi all, everything is in the title :/

I am not in a chess club yet, im just an enthusiastic chess player, my rating would probably be around 1700 BUT, I can't make any progress. These last few days I did lost almost all the games I played on various websites, even lost against 1100 or less rated opponent, and the more I fail, the more I feel like chess is maybe too hard for me? The only openings I really know some theory about is the Italian game and some variations and the scandinavian defense, I almost have no openings theory, I miss really often obvious tactics, when I try to plan my brain is melting and I finally play bad moves because of my feelings... I totally suck at endgames... Is there anybody who can tell me of a good "self study program" even if its slow or anything, cuz I just dont know what to do know :/

 

Thanks

ChessOfPlayer

Just keep playing on one site and play lots of games.  You should stay consistent.

ObliviousSheep

I think it is easier said than done :/ I feel like "all" my chess knowledge is rotten and playing a lot won't make me better :(

ChessOfPlayer
ScandinavianSheep wrote:

I think it is easier said than done :/ I feel like "all" my chess knowledge is rotten and playing a lot won't make me better :(

ok....

Practice and get back on form.  The only way to break these human 'set backs' is to plough through it.

tranchant
Hello,

You can first check this :
- do you train 30´ tactics everyday ? (same book to have repetition, like ct-art, dejascacchi free pdf)
- do you have a repertoire and do you have keep it at least one year ?
(easier to talk in french if you are ok)
ObliviousSheep
ChessOfPlayer a écrit :
ScandinavianSheep wrote:

I think it is easier said than done :/ I feel like "all" my chess knowledge is rotten and playing a lot won't make me better :(

ok....

Practice and get back on form.  The only way to break these human 'set backs' is to plough through it.

sounds so demotivating to me :/ ty for the advice

 

tranchant tu conseilles de faire les même puzzles plusieurs fois ? Sinon non j'ai pas de répertoire et je sais pas quelle bonne ouverture choisir :/

kindaspongey

Possibly helpful:

Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf

Logical Chess: Move by Move by Irving Chernev (1957)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104437/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/logichess.pdf

The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/

Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1949)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf

Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html

Chess Endgames for Kids by Karsten Müller (2015)

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/chess-endgames-for-kids/

A Guide to Chess Improvement by Dan Heisman (2010)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105628/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review781.pdf

tranchant

Pour retenir des schemas tactiques le seul moyen est de les repeter. donc dejascacchi (google et tu auras les pdf, gratuit et legal). Ou ct-art (livre ou app ou logiciel pc) payant.

C'est la methode reconnue pour les echecs et autres activites. Repetition, automatisme et detection en parties (evaluation).

Pour t'evaluer en tactiques tu peux utiliser ce site ou chesstempo par exemple. Objectif 1600 puis 1700...

Pour l'ouverture, cela depend avant tout de ton tems disponible pour reviser et de ta facon de penser le jeu.

Je peux te proposer des options (pas de mon cru bien sur, juste je reprends les idees de pedagogue des echecs).

Pour continuer a te repondre, pour le parties en ligne il y a enormement " d'aleatoire" donc ne te tiens pas trop a ca. Par exemple j'ai 800 pts elo d'eccart entre chesscom et lichess.

Comme tu l'indiques, ce sont bien tes reperes personnel qui sont important....avec un repertoire tu connaitras en profondeur les milieu d eparties qui vont en decouler.

Si tu veux bien me donner ton temps dispo a bosser les echecs je peux t eproposer un entrainement.

Former_mod_david

Chess.com has lots of great tools to help you improve your game: there's the Chess Mentor courses, or if you're more serious, the Chess Prodigy programs.

RonaldJosephCote

                        

DonaldoTrump

Dont worry, you can do other things. You can work in some of my Trumpy Hotels if you want. 

Or if you are a big muscular guy I can pay you around 10k dollars per day if you work on the wall.

kindaspongey
Rob3rtJamesFischer wrote:

kindaspongey, have you red all those books? ...

Just parts of some of them. I judge based on the parts that I have read and reviews. I try to emphasize that I am just identifying possibilities. In some cases, I am just noting recent books that address this or that specific subject.

Rob3rtJamesFischer wrote:

... I am amazed by your chess culture and knowledge of books. ...

I suppose I have an unusual desire to browse through books, sometimes just looking for quotes. Doesn't do much for one's rating, but I enjoy it.

ObliviousSheep
Rob3rtJamesFischer a écrit :

kindaspongey, have you red all those books? I always see you recomending tons of books, I am amazed by your chess culture and knowledge of books.

 

To the OP. I will leave the following quote here.

"I know people that have all the will in the world, but cant play good chess" 

-Robert James Fischer

 

Still, don't lose faith, stay positive about it and keep reading chess books. Chess improvement is an interesting subject, your rating won't increase in a consistent way after reading one page. You have to keep reading chess material, be enthusiast about it and something will just make click on you.

I hope you 're right Rob3rtJamesFischer!


Thank you so much Kingdaspongey that's a lot to read, great !


Merci tranchant, j'ai regardé vite fait les pdfs ça à l'air vachement bien. Sinon je crois que je vais tester chesstempo pour voir ! Pour ce qui est de mon temps consacré aux échecs c'est sympa mais c'est trop aléatoire donc je peux pas dire :/

Ashvapathi

When you first start playing or play after some gap, you lose some games until you get into the zone.

An-0-nym-0-us
Salut tranchant je suis prêt à lire ton exemple d'entraînement pour améliorer mon niveau d'échecs j'ai l'abonnement platinium sur ce site et j'ai pas mal de temps disponible pour travailler... Merci à bientôt
tranchant
Si tu n'as pas trop de temps, du style un boulot, une famille...en répertoire tu peux essayer 1.b3 et 1...b6 mais seulement les lignes proposées par smirnov (cf. youtube) donc sans pousser f.
Il argumente très bien pourquoi ce choix est intéressant quand on ne vit pas que échecs.

Bye
kindaspongey

jengaias wrote:

"... You will never see him recommend the really good books unless his boss decides to publish them."

I do not have a boss who publishes books.

jengaias wrote:

"It's ylblai2's(well known dealer) ..."

I am not a dealer and do not have a dealer.

jengaias wrote:

"... He is a 1400 USCF player" 

~1500

jengaias wrote:

"... with only mission to sell books and  make others as ignorant as he is."

I have no such missions.

ObliviousSheep
tranchant a écrit :
Si tu n'as pas trop de temps, du style un boulot, une famille...en répertoire tu peux essayer 1.b3 et 1...b6 mais seulement les lignes proposées par smirnov (cf. youtube) donc sans pousser f.
Il argumente très bien pourquoi ce choix est intéressant quand on ne vit pas que échecs.

Bye

 

Oui c'est un peu de tout ça, merci pour la piste je vais regarder ça, voir si je peux changer un peu mes habitudes. T'es sympa !

 

Najgrunfeld, im gonna look

tranchant

@Brunoandre, je ne sais pas trop quoi te dire quand on débute.

Je crois que tu devrais plutot jouer des 30-00 ici plutot que en différé. A chaque, de prendre son temps a regarder si des pieces sont en prise ou non...ou si elles ne vont pas le devenir apres ton coup.

De la tactique ici en mettant une fourchette elo vers 1000-1200.

Si c'est trop dur essye les fichiers de ce site :

http://www.jeip.org/telechargement/

ModestAndPolite

Sorry to say that I firmly believe the books recommended earlier in this thread are not very good, and if you take them too seriously they will saddle you with misconceptions that will hamper your development.

Practice tactical puzzles (and do the same few hundred over and over until they are thoroughly burned into your memory), learn the basic checkmating patterns (middle game AND endgame) and 10-20 "essential" endgames (Opposition, Lucena, etc.) , master the basic ideas of one major opening for White, and one defence to each of 1. e4, 1. d4 and 1. c4, and study a serious collection of well annotated games. Fischer's 60 memorable games, and the Life and Games of Mikhail Tal are now quite old but still excellent. Or you could look at a couple of more recent anthologies. The Mammoth Book of the World's Greatest Chess Games is inexepensive and will also give you a good overview of the development of chess over the last 150+ years.  Alternatively John Nunn's "Understandfing Chess Move by Move"  will give you a good understanding of the modern game.  Nunn took the idea of commenting every move from Irving Chernev but he does a much better job of it. His explanations are rarely superficial platitudes that were written only to make good on the promise of the title.

Do all that  and you should see a significant boost in strength.

 

Just reading books is not a lot of use.  You have to actively engage with them for them to have any benefit. i.e. try to predict the moves, challenge the author's judgements, opinions, and analysis.

I know what it takes to reach 2100+ strength in OTB play, as I have been there.  I cannot tell you how to progress further, to 2200+ and master titles.