what are you autistic fuckers talking about, get cancer spiks
I am ridiculously bad at blitz
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1800 standard otb, 1400 blitz chessdot com. its too muvh of a difference...either the standard is inflated or the blitz is deflated.
mosey69 wrote:
It might be argued that bullet chess isn't really chess at all. Especially with premove, guessing, and hardly calculating at all. It's plausible that if you work hard at bullet chess and all the little tricks you could be much better than your blitz... and yet be bad at fast chess.
This is definitely true. It might seem counter-intuitive but 1-0 differs more from 5-0 than 5-0 does from classical time controls, especially online where you have premove. In bullet chess the quality of your moves in almost irrelevant if they cause your opponent to use time, 10 secs more on the clock is a winning advantage, you're purely playing to win on time essentially. In blitz you still need to play decent moves for most of the game. Personally I'm pretty bad at anything between 3-0 and 10-0, but decent at longer time controls, and also reasonable at bullet just cause I've played it alot and understand that it is different game to normal chess. If you try to play bullet like "real chess", even blitz you will lose on time every time.
I must say I have to disagree whole-heartedly with this; if you're not calculating in bullet you're doing it wrong. If you think about it (haha), 3-5 seconds is more than enough to calculate a decent variation, and 60 seconds is enough to play a decent game of chess...
whatbecause wrote:
mosey69 wrote:
It might be argued that bullet chess isn't really chess at all. Especially with premove, guessing, and hardly calculating at all. It's plausible that if you work hard at bullet chess and all the little tricks you could be much better than your blitz... and yet be bad at fast chess.
This is definitely true. It might seem counter-intuitive but 1-0 differs more from 5-0 than 5-0 does from classical time controls, especially online where you have premove. In bullet chess the quality of your moves in almost irrelevant if they cause your opponent to use time, 10 secs more on the clock is a winning advantage, you're purely playing to win on time essentially. In blitz you still need to play decent moves for most of the game. Personally I'm pretty bad at anything between 3-0 and 10-0, but decent at longer time controls, and also reasonable at bullet just cause I've played it alot and understand that it is different game to normal chess. If you try to play bullet like "real chess", even blitz you will lose on time every time.
I must say I have to disagree whole-heartedly with this; if you're not calculating in bullet you're doing it wrong. If you think about it (haha), 3-5 seconds is more than enough to calculate a decent variation, and 60 seconds is enough to play a decent game of chess...
How much bullet have you played? If you're using 3-5 seconds per move you're going to lose most games on time. I'm not saying you don't calculate just that in the end bullet is usually decided by the clock not the board.
***@whatbecause I just looked at your bullet rating obviously you and I are on a totally different level so our experiences are probably not comparable haha
Anyone else trip our over Alives use of the word "greatness"?
Funny.
I mean granted we are on a chess forum
I'm sure we can all agree that it is a game. I feel like when he uses that term he really thinks being good at chess is the end all and most important thing in life
Which makes me ponder what his life is like.
I envy it. Honestly I wish all i had to think about was chess. Devote my every moment to chess would be a dream! (As I'm sure it would be for everyone on here) but who is blessed enough to have that opportunity?
Can only spend few free moments during the day to look at a correspondence game. Or at night get to read a bit and maybe play with a friend OTB but not even so lately unfortunately
pilotk9 wrote:
Anyone else trip our over Alives use of the word "greatness"?
Funny.
I mean granted we are on a chess forum
I'm sure we can all agree that it is a game. I feel like when he uses that term he really thinks being good at chess is the end all and most important thing in life
Which makes me ponder what his life is like.
I envy it. Honestly I wish all i had to think about was chess. Devote my every moment to chess would be a dream! (As I'm sure it would be for everyone on here) but who is blessed enough to have that opportunity?
Can only spend few free moments during the day to look at a correspondence game. Or at night get to read a bit and maybe play with a friend OTB but not even so lately unfortunately
It's called being unemployed, and also having no social life lol.
svenosaurus wrote:
I don't think chess.com blitz ratings are comparable to USCF ratings. I am about 400 points lower rated in blitz (and about 600 in bullet) than my OTB rating. Similar for my two stronger chessplayer friends who play here. One is about 2000 USCF and just under 1600 in chess.com blitz, the other is a candidate master in Croatia, probably at least 2200 USCF strength, and in the 1800s here. Also, looking at the top blitz games, I usually see NMs whose chess.com blitz rating is 1800-2000. So it seems your chess.com rating is pretty much on par with your USCF OTB rating.
It seem strange in chess.com in blitz and bullet otb masters and otb expert but I am one them who have a 2011 uscf and my highest being at 2110 uscf and my bullet at 1500 to 1600 and blitz at 1700. The funny thing is my otb blitz is at 1900 to low 2000 and I am playing against A-Class(1800-1999 uscf), experts and masters and here I can't even make it to at least 1900. Some blitz and bullet players on chess.com rated at 1500 and 1700 are maybe more stronger than their blitz or bullet rating. One blitz player rated at 1600 was extremely difficult and look him up and his online rating was in the 2000s.
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I hope you don't feel ashamed. What helped me was that I started playing really-really fast on purpose. I lost at first, but then I began winning some games ! Try different things....most of all ?....have fun....
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@dpnormar, I would not worry too much about your blitz rating, for me it is more repectable a otb rating than a blitz rating. I remember this 1500 uscf player who blitz rating was at 1800 and was bragging but players will always respect the otb player. You have reach a very good level the A-class and very few players ever reach this high. :)
My bullet and blitz suck and I am an expert level and now I understand their are players like you who are strong and not your normal 1400 anf 1700 level opponents. My otb blitz rating is at 1900 and my highest has been in the 2000s.
KirbyCake wrote:
dpnorman wrote:
@KirbyCake lol I play in one of the least inflated areas. DC metro area. I go to Baltimore and DC for tournaments. I don't think my rating OTB is inflated. I've played in some big and well-known open tournaments with hundreds of players: Atlantic Open, Eastern Open, Potomac Open, etc.
Go to USCF rating lookup and enter Dennis Norman. My OTB is 1811. 1670something for quick rating. No blitz history.
How about checking your facts before making offensive statements? Which also don't help answer my question, btw. And why would I possibly lie about my OTB rating? Look it up. I played this past weekend in the Baltimore Open U2100 section and got 2.5/5 against a bunch of >1900s. I deserve an 1800 OTB rating.
any legitimate 1800 USCF can easily get 1.8k+ in bullet+blitz and 2000+ in in standard.
chess.com ratings are extremely overinflated
why am i 2250 elo otb and 1800-1900 here on blitz? ok ive been 2200 here on blitz when i was in good blitz form but that is rare for me. This site is definently not overinflated.
@sertas wrote: why am i 2250 elo otb and 1800-1900 here on blitz? ok ive been 2200 here on blitz when i was in good blitz form but that is rare for me. This site is definently not overinflated.
I believe some blitz players who are rated high are over-rated who have low otb rating. My friend who is a low rated expert 2016 uscf has a 2400 bullet rating in chess.com, he never went higher than 2016 uscf. This does not make any sense, maybe the player who can move the mouse quicker wins or plays irregular opening. Some players who are low rated in are actually strong players, they take more thought in their move and play standard opening but lose on time or make horrible blunders because his are making mindless move. OTB blitz seem different, at least mine is closer to my otb rating of 2011 uscf and mine blitz is at 1900 uscf.
yureesystem wrote:
The funny thing is my otb blitz is at 1900 to low 2000 and I am playing against A-Class(1800-1999 uscf), experts and masters and here I can't even make it to at least 1900.
OH OH!!!! OH!!! OH!!! Let me be the first to say it......CHEATERS!!!
Kleelof wrote: OH OH!!!! OH!!! OH!!! Let me be the first to say it......CHEATERS!!!
LOL, Ahhhh!!! Some are cheaters but I think most are honest players.
yureesystem wrote:
Kleelof wrote: OH OH!!!! OH!!! OH!!! Let me be the first to say it......CHEATERS!!!
LOL, Ahhhh!!! Some are cheaters but I think most are honest players.
Yeah, I agree. Just wanted to get it in there before someone comes along and makes a serious allegation.
Your case is a bit extreme than most I have seen, but not unreasonably so. I know several strong 1800ish players who are in the low 1600s blitz here. I guess the closest case is a 1750 who is 1420ish blitz here. It is pretty frequent to find players with blitz ratings below their standard.
I am on the other side of the spectrum- I am a 1900 USCF player with a 2100 blitz rating (though I guess it is true that I have not made it to a tournament in a good amount of time). I think there is really no point to trying to compare OTB with blitz.
I know you are disappointed with where your blitz currently is, I guess practicing quick tactics (Chess Tactics Server is good), can help you improve quick calculation. But some players are just better at slow time controls than fast, which is far from a bad thing. It is probably better than the reverse, at least.
I just played a lot of blitz today and got back over 1500. I'm done for the night- if I play any more it will likely fall down again. I'm not a fast chess player.
dpnorman wrote:
I just played a lot of blitz today and got back over 1500. I'm done for the night- if I play any more it will likely fall down again. I'm not a fast chess player.
Are you a gambler? This sounds like gambler thinking.
kleelof wrote:
yureesystem wrote:
The funny thing is my otb blitz is at 1900 to low 2000 and I am playing against A-Class(1800-1999 uscf), experts and masters and here I can't even make it to at least 1900.
OH OH!!!! OH!!! OH!!! Let me be the first to say it......CHEATERS!!!
i think cheaters call other people cheaters
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As for the OP, it makes no sense that his BLITZ rating is lower than his Bullet rating, thus contradicting his original post, since he clearly plays well at faster time controls.
So, a reasonable conclusion is -- this thread is BS, most likely the OP is too.
Whatever.
It might be argued that bullet chess isn't really chess at all. Especially with premove, guessing, and hardly calculating at all. It's plausible that if you work hard at bullet chess and all the little tricks you could be much better than your blitz... and yet be bad at fast chess.
This is definitely true. It might seem counter-intuitive but 1-0 differs more from 5-0 than 5-0 does from classical time controls, especially online where you have premove. In bullet chess the quality of your moves in almost irrelevant if they cause your opponent to use time, 10 secs more on the clock is a winning advantage, you're purely playing to win on time essentially. In blitz you still need to play decent moves for most of the game. Personally I'm pretty bad at anything between 3-0 and 10-0, but decent at longer time controls, and also reasonable at bullet just cause I've played it alot and understand that it is different game to normal chess. If you try to play bullet like "real chess", even blitz you will lose on time every time.