I am weird - I do not want to play chess!

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Bartleby73

Eseles, you are hilarious. Really like your kind of humour. If you continue our feud, I will have to challenge you to a correspondence game to settle our musical differences. We both could then listen to our kind of music while pondering on our moves continents away from each other.

The answer to your question is --- I'd probably do it for a lot of money, I am such a whore. Don't let your pope McCartney know, he could cash it out!

Eseles

Rofl Laughing

i'm really laughing man, you're great! :)

i think he was a greater one of what you called yourself (w---e) :D

yeah, i'd pay to see that... if i had the money Money Mouth  to spare Tongue Out

KeyserSzoze

Maybe you are a competitive person and you don't like to be defeated. I hate it when it happens and it's very difficult to look oevr the lost games. But this is how you get good at chess 

thelonerainer

try somthing new, 960, live, blitz, bullet, standard, puzzles, tactical training, or v.s the computer.

Bartleby73

Great example of a game where the first ten moves where not just opening games.

@TheTubester: Are you aware that there are Scrabble world championships with very competitive people? Scrabblers go off the looney bin all the time. I agree that there is a problem with chess played for ego. But I don't think I will stop with chess. Done that once for five years for exactly that reason.

taffy76

Bartleby... I had the same problem. I HATE losing under any circumstances and simply the fear of losing was stoping me from playing. I would procrastinate by watching master games on youtube or reading chess books or doing tactics training... but never actually playing. I even googled my chess fear to see if it was common amoung chess players. I found a great article (no idea where sorry) that put everything into perspective and encouraged me to start playing. In fact, I was soon playing 5-10 games a day whereas before I would be lucky to play 1 or 2.

The key point of the article was that (assuming you analyse your games)every loss makes you a better player. It's that simple! Want to get better? LOSE, LOSE, then LOSE some more! I read once that you need to lose 1 thousand games to be considered half decent, thats a lot of games to lose.

Pretty soon I was craving to play chess not to win but to reach that 1,000th loss (I'm still not there yet BTW... it does take a while). Keep reminding yourself, everyday, before every game, that losing is a good thing because it means you are getting better.

Hope that helps?

rooperi
THETUBESTER wrote:

Chess sucks - I agree, stop playing it.  Its one of the rare games that are only played for ego. 

You never hear of Scrabble players going off the looney bin.  Pick a different board game that is actually fun ALL OF THE TIME.  If chess is such a chore playing it, stop playing it.  Maybe an epidemic will break out and a lot of people will take the cue and follow suit.

 You're suggesting he tries billiards or bridge?

Bartleby73

Taffy, I love your comment and will start to work on my own K of losses. Laughing

pawnsolo2

Cool Not only do I not enjoy playing chess against people, but I also dislike reading other peoples opinions on playing chess against other people. I also dislike myself so I find chess.com to be the place for me. 

taffy76

Another thing to think about, aside from the actual fear of losing, is whether you are scared to drop ratings points? If you are, think for a second about your end goal in chess from a rating perspective... is it 2000? 2200? higher? If it is, and you truely believe you can and will get there, should you really worry about losing 10 points on your next game? Should you worry about ratings at all at this level?

This used to be me until I realised that my rating now is insignificant in number compared to where I hope it will be in 3 years time. Suddenly my rating has lost almost all meaning and all I want to do is play higher rated opponents, lose games, analyse them, and hopefully improve. All the while continuing to do the right things like tactics puzzles, master games etc.

Make sense?

chessmaster102
Bartleby73 wrote:

Seems like I  have a bit of a problem -  I like solving puzzles, tactics trainer, looking at master games, stuying openings, all kinds of chess training really. I have spent 1-3 hours a day on chess over the last half a year. Sometimes I play against a computer but I really shun playing against real people online or otb.

If I (has been a a few weeks now) get myself to actually play a game, I do not get much satisfaction out of it - If I win, I think my opponent was just some beginner who does not know yet what he/she should do (truth be told, I am a beginner myself) If I lose, I get angry with myself for my patzers.

Am I not competitive enough? Do I shun time pressure up to the point of the ridiculous? What could I do to get over this fear?

I think people who compose chess problems or who are chess historians or even organize chess events as a chess professian feel the same way. Maybe thats your correct path in this chess world

beerainsdone
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robobeer

Very insightful Taffy, I can relate to bartlebys situation also. Since I dont have any friends that regularly play chess, I have played roughly 10 games of OTB chess in the last 6 months. I like it much more than playing online. I am fine losing in OTB, but for some reason I get infuriated online, and I dont seem to learn from my mistakes.

Bartleby73

its weird. I just played 2 rounds of checkers against my brother in law, losing both. Instead of questioning my intelligence and skills, I just saw it as a learning experience. Why don't I do the same thing with chess? Probably because I have spent more time practicing chess. I think I just dont want to disappoint myself over and over again. But hey, 1000 games need to be lost!Smile

RookRumble

Do you exercise much?  Your job is chess?  WOW! Do you work in a chess shop? I guess we should all be well rounded people i.e. read books, exercise , take an interest in current affairs, watch movies e.t.c 

I reiterate, don't let your percieved chess performance define you as a person and you will do better and enjoy it more.  Do the best you can and be happy with it, it's as simple as that...I'm only about 1280 in blitz (my game at the moment because of time!).  Where I live I'm a relatively strong player but on the internet world scene I'm severely wanting....but I love the game anyway!

Bartleby73

Yes, my job is chess. I do not excercise much, but ride my bicyicle. And I have overcome this problem! I do enjoy games now. Thanks to the hint that I need to lose a thousand games! Smile

Seriously, I realized that there is also little point in winning lots of games against people who are below my strength. I need to make a mistake, be unhappy about it, analyse and learn from the pain. Just blundered in two correspondence games yesterday and now I am not a happy camper. But tomorrow I will smile and understand. And next week I will crush you all!