I Don't See the Point of the Touch-Move Rule

Why stop there.  There should be a think move rule.  The first move you envision is the one you're you're obligated to make.

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I love it. Ok. So imagine you're in some tournament. You're thinking about 3. Qxf7+. But then you realize that the Queen sacrifice that early in the game won't accomplish much for you. So instead, you develop a Knight.

Your opponent, who is FURIOUS, calls the arbitrator over and informs him that you were THINKING about a Queen sacrifice but instead played another move and DEMANDS you take your last move back.

Upon seeing the blank look on the arbitrator's face, I would more than likely LOL.

Heartbreaker.

Why dont you read the title again? That way you can see that the the title is "I dont see the point of the touch move rule", not "there is no point tuch rule". 

I dont see the point of male nipples, that dont mean I dont think they excist. 

I could go on for some time, but hopfully you get the point :)

Yes that may be but you are forgetting one minor detail.

In Soviet Russia, official rules of chess read YOU.

Where else would you put the clamps?

But If I castle on the queenside I wont need to pass the king

Guys its not a rook move.  Castling is a king maneuver.  You cant move 2 pieces.  The rook is just dragged over by the board state, same as a piece dying is removed.

So? Both sides have this disadvantage.

That's an illegal position. How did the queen and the bishop got there with no pawns moved?

Isn't that called "bullet chess"?

PS: the typonazi club informs you that underlining is not an acceptable form of emphasis in typed writing when bold or italics are possible.

it was quickly done to prove a point. Hope you are happy now

aman_makhija wrote:

aww-rats wrote:

If no touch move rule, you would distract your opponent easily. Say you pick up your Bishop, then notice your opponent will win elsewhere on the board. So, you let go of the bishop, and grab the Knight he is threatening, then see moving it loses too. You keep at this until you find the piece you can safely move. You have just succeeded in annoying your opponent and have broken his concentration. Therein lies the key. This is why tournament halls are silent. The touch move rule is just one of many rules meant to allow full concentration during a game.

So? Both sides have this disadvantage.

It is preferred not to give either side an advantage or a disadvantage.

Optimissed wrote:

>No it isn't, because you can't hop the rook over the king unless you castle, which you would do if you castle. Therefore the rule to move the king first is illogical. 

If you moved the rook first, then the king hops over the rook. That aside, it has to do with touch move. Think about castling as two separate moves. The rook moves, and the king moves. If the rook is put on the proper square, that move is legal. But the king cannot be in check, or pass through check. If he does, then the king move, and castling is illegal. Now, due to touch-move, he should be forced to move the king, which he moved illegally. So, he touches the king first in order to create no doubt. If he touches the rook first, he could claim touch-move only makes him move the rook. Touching the king first removes ambiguity and helps with enforcement of the touch-move rule.

You only hop the rook over the king when castling, if you've moved the king first.

If you move the rook first, it's a complete move in its own right as soon as you remove your hand from the rook, no peices have been "hopped over".  You're intent to subsequently hop the king over the rook to complete the castling move is irrelevant under touch-move rules, you've just made a rook move.

                   Maybe we should start a puking thread.  I'm just guessing here but since castling is a defensive king manuever, the logical way to tell your opponent is to move the king 1st. It has to go 2 squares. Before he has a chance to look up and say, "illegal move", you then have completed the rook slide either side.  I'm also refering to OTB games and not a friendly one at say, McDonalds. Unless you need a reason to start a food fight.

It's really quite simple, moving the king first eliminates and and all ambiguity about what the intended move is.

No, I am sorry, there is still a fair amount of Troll Rating points to be had here.  Let us consider playing Devil's advocate, whilst I do believe in the Holy Laws of Chess, let us evolve the game and allow:

1) Touching, caressing, stroking, depositing body matter on pieces

2) Bringing in your own favourite queen and swapping it for yours

3) Using a peashooter (or depending on locale) small firearm to kill pieces

4) Having a spring loaded mini-samurai sword to en passant with style

5) Awarding a MVP title to the piece most involved in the play

Just putting these out there.  The rules are due a change, no?